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khanlicker
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If you're looking for a way to shut down this website, I would say don/t bother, it's server is based on overseas, there is nothing that you/authority/government can do.
Check pc/laptop/phone internet log if you rily wanna monitor
Check pc/laptop/phone internet log if you rily wanna monitor
Yup, I know about that part.
Just that lately this was hot topic, and it stirred my interest a little further.
True, IDA cannot shutdown the forum which I think is causing distress to many married women.
But if, say, the users are able to contact and seek sexual services from the forum isn't it illegal for those solicitating on the forum. These sexual providers are locals.
Just that lately this was hot topic, and it stirred my interest a little further.
True, IDA cannot shutdown the forum which I think is causing distress to many married women.
But if, say, the users are able to contact and seek sexual services from the forum isn't it illegal for those solicitating on the forum. These sexual providers are locals.
khanlicker
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They are not exactly soliciting, because they did not call up ppl's phone and ask if they are interested in having some fun ?? Man text and fix time. location for it, does this constitute soliciting ??
Care to provide exact definition of soliciting ?
As for married woman, I think the best they can do is, take good care of appearance, dress up well, and try not to reject sexual advance everytime. If man still look for prostitute despite your effort, then maybe you can consider the ultimatum.
Care to provide exact definition of soliciting ?
As for married woman, I think the best they can do is, take good care of appearance, dress up well, and try not to reject sexual advance everytime. If man still look for prostitute despite your effort, then maybe you can consider the ultimatum.
The definition of "solicit" are
1) to seek to influence or incite to action, especially unlawful or wrong action.
2) to offer to have sex with in exchange for money.
And yes, I think that having fun on the expense of the men's pocket is soliciting.
If you say, like people who go on other social networking websites like Tagged, to make friends then end up somewherelse .... yup, I think that is mutual consent with no monetary intent from the start.
1) to seek to influence or incite to action, especially unlawful or wrong action.
2) to offer to have sex with in exchange for money.
And yes, I think that having fun on the expense of the men's pocket is soliciting.
If you say, like people who go on other social networking websites like Tagged, to make friends then end up somewherelse .... yup, I think that is mutual consent with no monetary intent from the start.
I have known men who actually go to such websites (not sure if they solicit any "extra activities" and I certainly don't wish to know...) where they have those dirty discussions with other men and of cos download those ** rated stuff for whatever reasons... even when they have wives/gfs/etc that are really loving, beautiful, etc... and in their own words "because it is fun and I am addicted".
I hope my guy friends don't get back at me for revealing this :x
It does make me upset to know all this but there's little we can do. I don't know if its the culture, media, social/peer influence that causes them to think this way.. in fact, I know that some of them actually do feel GUILTY for doing so, yet they just can't help it.... I recommended them to seek professional help but they always give the same reason (excuse, imo) that it's embarrassing/troublesome/expensive... I know one of them spoke to their wives and she threatened to divorce him.. he told me he ended up just continuously lying to her.
What do you all think?
Do you agree those are excuses?
Also, if they were indeed "soliciting extra activities" and they confessed it to you, what would you do about it? (Tell his wife? Advice him? etc...)
I hope my guy friends don't get back at me for revealing this :x
It does make me upset to know all this but there's little we can do. I don't know if its the culture, media, social/peer influence that causes them to think this way.. in fact, I know that some of them actually do feel GUILTY for doing so, yet they just can't help it.... I recommended them to seek professional help but they always give the same reason (excuse, imo) that it's embarrassing/troublesome/expensive... I know one of them spoke to their wives and she threatened to divorce him.. he told me he ended up just continuously lying to her.
What do you all think?
Do you agree those are excuses?
Also, if they were indeed "soliciting extra activities" and they confessed it to you, what would you do about it? (Tell his wife? Advice him? etc...)
Excuses .... I suppose.
Well, my point still goes back to the original. It's the easy access to these vices that more and more men get hook on this.
Men by nature are tempted by such vices, they have less restraint. If part of such vices are made less easy, perhaps we have less of such issues to worry about?
Also, legitimate or legalise prostitutes are required to go for HIV/STDs checks -- in another words they are regulated, and relatively safe.
The online women, come from all over the shop. Mostly, PRCs who come here on social visiting passes, or student passes ... no control.
Oh yah ... one best find is some women even work from their homes! Can be found in Sengkang. BEST!
Well, my point still goes back to the original. It's the easy access to these vices that more and more men get hook on this.
Men by nature are tempted by such vices, they have less restraint. If part of such vices are made less easy, perhaps we have less of such issues to worry about?
Also, legitimate or legalise prostitutes are required to go for HIV/STDs checks -- in another words they are regulated, and relatively safe.
The online women, come from all over the shop. Mostly, PRCs who come here on social visiting passes, or student passes ... no control.
Oh yah ... one best find is some women even work from their homes! Can be found in Sengkang. BEST!
khanlicker
New Member
Souless,
whatever that floats your boat, I just hope that you dont bring over your paranoia, sarcasm and condescension in your communication and arguments with your husbands.
whatever that floats your boat, I just hope that you dont bring over your paranoia, sarcasm and condescension in your communication and arguments with your husbands.
khanlicker
New Member
oh and one more thing, u r beginning to live up to your username, souless.
@souless - Quoting you "Men by nature are tempted by such vices, they have less restraint. If part of such vices are made less easy, perhaps we have less of such issues to worry about? "
I totally agree to this!
If taking down the whole site is far-fetched, I really would appreciate if they at least make the site less accessible...
@bebe - It is true that some men do not know how to appreciate their wives. I saw in another topic that one of the wives having trouble with her unreasonable hubby (which I will go an reply to later) and it really makes me wonder if men aren't just as "complicated" as women, or more so maybe?
and please.... don't make this a war zone. If khanlicker is a male, it would be useful to us women if he voices out his pov so we can then see how the thought process of some men may be... right? It may not be right by us, but we shouldn't judge him because of that. Just like he may not understand or agree with how some of us women see things...
we're all entitled to our opinions, and personal attacks are not necessary...
I totally agree to this!
If taking down the whole site is far-fetched, I really would appreciate if they at least make the site less accessible...
@bebe - It is true that some men do not know how to appreciate their wives. I saw in another topic that one of the wives having trouble with her unreasonable hubby (which I will go an reply to later) and it really makes me wonder if men aren't just as "complicated" as women, or more so maybe?
and please.... don't make this a war zone. If khanlicker is a male, it would be useful to us women if he voices out his pov so we can then see how the thought process of some men may be... right? It may not be right by us, but we shouldn't judge him because of that. Just like he may not understand or agree with how some of us women see things...
we're all entitled to our opinions, and personal attacks are not necessary...
Joanne, thanks.
I was just fooling around with Khanlicker, and was taken aback from his remarks.
When I started this thread, I never in my life expected a Man to come in to voice his views. It's interesting, I must admit.
My intention is clear ... why do married go for prostitutes? With the easy access of sammy/laksa boy aggravate the situation? It makes it so easy for men to "book" girls online. It used to be men preying on the streets in Geylang discreetly to book prostitutes or when they are posted overseas for work, they could visit brothels without much scrutiny and pressure from being found out by somebody he knows.
I was just fooling around with Khanlicker, and was taken aback from his remarks.
When I started this thread, I never in my life expected a Man to come in to voice his views. It's interesting, I must admit.
My intention is clear ... why do married go for prostitutes? With the easy access of sammy/laksa boy aggravate the situation? It makes it so easy for men to "book" girls online. It used to be men preying on the streets in Geylang discreetly to book prostitutes or when they are posted overseas for work, they could visit brothels without much scrutiny and pressure from being found out by somebody he knows.
Yea I know what you mean... as if there's already not enough temptations out there, they make more temptations online...
I also feel sad for the females who subject themselves to earning from these avenues.. the genuine needy ones (not those who use the $$$ to buy LV bags -.-")
I think men can be really insensitive and very illogical. They always have some form of "justification" for their wrongdoings and the whole "men and women" are different in emotional and physical attachments is annoying.
I admit I have high sex drive and all, I love looking at hot hunks, and I do have my own fantasies. I have my wild moments too but if my man can't live up to my expectations, it would totally go against my principle to go find another man to satisfy the lacking desire.
It's just ridiculous.
I am not married yet, but before I am, I already make it clear to my bf that I will not tolerate unfaithfulness.... Even porn to me is too much. I asked him once (crying because I caught him), how would he feel if I was masturbating while looking and thinking of another man? and he kept quiet. I went on further and asked him if he would be ok? if he would like the idea of me doing such a thing?
and he said no. So he got my point crystal clear and since then, he stopped watching porn (though just last night he admitted to having thought about it several times, but stopped himself.
I also feel sad for the females who subject themselves to earning from these avenues.. the genuine needy ones (not those who use the $$$ to buy LV bags -.-")
I think men can be really insensitive and very illogical. They always have some form of "justification" for their wrongdoings and the whole "men and women" are different in emotional and physical attachments is annoying.
I admit I have high sex drive and all, I love looking at hot hunks, and I do have my own fantasies. I have my wild moments too but if my man can't live up to my expectations, it would totally go against my principle to go find another man to satisfy the lacking desire.
It's just ridiculous.
I am not married yet, but before I am, I already make it clear to my bf that I will not tolerate unfaithfulness.... Even porn to me is too much. I asked him once (crying because I caught him), how would he feel if I was masturbating while looking and thinking of another man? and he kept quiet. I went on further and asked him if he would be ok? if he would like the idea of me doing such a thing?
and he said no. So he got my point crystal clear and since then, he stopped watching porn (though just last night he admitted to having thought about it several times, but stopped himself.
khanlicker
New Member
the trend of online prostitution is sadly, irreversible, it's happening in every part of the world, from as our neighbor malaysia, to US, UK. The convenience that internet has brought us and the way it revolutionize our living style is also wielding its evolutionary forces in prostitution domain. it's the same as online buying selling, email, social media...etc.
So mommies here can only work your magic best on ur next generation. Tackle this prob by ensuring that u instil good values and ensure that he's in the company of similar ppl. Oh, and one more thing, mould an attractive personality, groom himself well and know-how of approaching and dating girls. Becoz believe it or not, lots of guy go to prostitution due to inability to date girls. After doing all the aforementioned stuff, , your next gen should stand a very high chance of being immune to whore.
And making such forum less accessible is an effort in futile unless u have full monitoring access to the other half phone, but even then they are still able to access them from company pc or laptop, so go figure yourself, stopping them from viewing is equivalent to MI.
So mommies here can only work your magic best on ur next generation. Tackle this prob by ensuring that u instil good values and ensure that he's in the company of similar ppl. Oh, and one more thing, mould an attractive personality, groom himself well and know-how of approaching and dating girls. Becoz believe it or not, lots of guy go to prostitution due to inability to date girls. After doing all the aforementioned stuff, , your next gen should stand a very high chance of being immune to whore.
And making such forum less accessible is an effort in futile unless u have full monitoring access to the other half phone, but even then they are still able to access them from company pc or laptop, so go figure yourself, stopping them from viewing is equivalent to MI.
khanlicker
New Member
Could you tell me which part is insulting ?
1st, 2nd or 3rd para ? or the whole thing?
1st, 2nd or 3rd para ? or the whole thing?
As for married woman, I think the best they can do is, take good care of appearance, dress up well, and try not to reject sexual advance everytime. If man still look for prostitute despite your effort, then maybe you can consider the ultimatum.
You think a 30/40 year old woman can ever look half as good as a sweet young thing of 18 offering services for a few hundred dollars? Come'on! Get real! Have you seen these girls? Supermodel looks and figure.
For men, look at yourself in the mirror at age 30 & 40... Do you look like when you were 18? No right... Regardless of the Armani Suit you have on. Does Tom Cruise still have his youthful boy looks of 20?
Fact: We are but average women, not superstars who pump their millions into botox & plastic surgery to look young.
It boils down to men having discipline and ability to say No which is a very simple 2 letter word.
You think a 30/40 year old woman can ever look half as good as a sweet young thing of 18 offering services for a few hundred dollars? Come'on! Get real! Have you seen these girls? Supermodel looks and figure.
For men, look at yourself in the mirror at age 30 & 40... Do you look like when you were 18? No right... Regardless of the Armani Suit you have on. Does Tom Cruise still have his youthful boy looks of 20?
Fact: We are but average women, not superstars who pump their millions into botox & plastic surgery to look young.
It boils down to men having discipline and ability to say No which is a very simple 2 letter word.
I agree with you shoppixe! I mean, we gotta at least try our best...
but... I also understand how souless feels...
It's not fair that men are so superficial, while women care about men's qualities and personality more, etc.
Although for me, I remind my bf exactly how many men's advances I've rejected - an underlying meaning to warn him that I can be so much worse if he even so much as think of cheating on me... Of cos, it's not necessarily what I should do, nor does it mean I would actually sleep with another man but it's the psychological strike at his ego - which men seemed to be pumped full of it...
Which brings me to another point - men say women are all about the money, etc. What about them? They're all about the beauty, voluptuousness, sex appeal, skills in bed, etc? -.-
My pov - we women make our own, be as independent as we can, and do our part as best as we can. In truth, khanlicker has made alot of valid points - that these websites only act as a form of catalyst, but without actually dealing with the source (which is men themselves), there's not much of a difference. The roles we play as a mother is so important then. Instilling good values, teaching our children to be respectful, guiding our sons to make the right choices and respect the women... Mother's need to know when is the right time, how to approach the subject, etc... I know most of my male friends who did visit prosts is bcos they didn't know how to ask a girl out, etc, so they never really dated.. some even have a gf but didn't know how to ask the gf, or they got too "curious", or their friends have all slept with one, etc... there are so many factors that will influence the males, so as mothers, we really have to instill the foundation of their principles and instincts so they make the right choices in such aspect...
but... I also understand how souless feels...
It's not fair that men are so superficial, while women care about men's qualities and personality more, etc.
Although for me, I remind my bf exactly how many men's advances I've rejected - an underlying meaning to warn him that I can be so much worse if he even so much as think of cheating on me... Of cos, it's not necessarily what I should do, nor does it mean I would actually sleep with another man but it's the psychological strike at his ego - which men seemed to be pumped full of it...
Which brings me to another point - men say women are all about the money, etc. What about them? They're all about the beauty, voluptuousness, sex appeal, skills in bed, etc? -.-
My pov - we women make our own, be as independent as we can, and do our part as best as we can. In truth, khanlicker has made alot of valid points - that these websites only act as a form of catalyst, but without actually dealing with the source (which is men themselves), there's not much of a difference. The roles we play as a mother is so important then. Instilling good values, teaching our children to be respectful, guiding our sons to make the right choices and respect the women... Mother's need to know when is the right time, how to approach the subject, etc... I know most of my male friends who did visit prosts is bcos they didn't know how to ask a girl out, etc, so they never really dated.. some even have a gf but didn't know how to ask the gf, or they got too "curious", or their friends have all slept with one, etc... there are so many factors that will influence the males, so as mothers, we really have to instill the foundation of their principles and instincts so they make the right choices in such aspect...
Joannne
My friends are of the opposite from yours.
They just need variety, and they find that LSB and SBF are such good source for pools of gals for them to choose from annoymously, its like heaven-sent.
Tell you what happen to a friend's of my HB, read from my HB phone's Whatsapp.
Friend said "heng ah, today never show up for the ACT, my wife last minute pop into my office to give me a surprise lunch ...."
Damn shit rite? And this friend has a very pretty wife, and I think she's quite sexual also, cause sometimes she jokingly will share with us what she an HB do on weekends getaways.
So, there are 2 groups of men outside. Desperately need women to F****, and those who f*** their wives but still wana F*** other women for variety sake.
My friends are of the opposite from yours.
They just need variety, and they find that LSB and SBF are such good source for pools of gals for them to choose from annoymously, its like heaven-sent.
Tell you what happen to a friend's of my HB, read from my HB phone's Whatsapp.
Friend said "heng ah, today never show up for the ACT, my wife last minute pop into my office to give me a surprise lunch ...."
Damn shit rite? And this friend has a very pretty wife, and I think she's quite sexual also, cause sometimes she jokingly will share with us what she an HB do on weekends getaways.
So, there are 2 groups of men outside. Desperately need women to F****, and those who f*** their wives but still wana F*** other women for variety sake.
I do agree with Souless... The easy access is BAD!
For example chewing gum 80% people were chewing gum before it was banned. After, maybe 10% or less.Same for drugs. If not for harsh penalties, Singapore would be filled with drug abusers.
Easy access boosts the rate exponentially.
When I talk to my counterparts in the states, do you know their Impression of Singapore is a Sex City with issues dealing with human trafficking for sex trade? Let's say I'm not proud of Singapore being that way.
For example chewing gum 80% people were chewing gum before it was banned. After, maybe 10% or less.Same for drugs. If not for harsh penalties, Singapore would be filled with drug abusers.
Easy access boosts the rate exponentially.
When I talk to my counterparts in the states, do you know their Impression of Singapore is a Sex City with issues dealing with human trafficking for sex trade? Let's say I'm not proud of Singapore being that way.
Cannot agree with you more that "Easy access boosts the rate exponentially."
Well said!
Actually I have met someone like what souless said, an idiot who actually approach me even when he was married to a MODEL... just because he and I were really close friends at one point, and he shared about his curiosity on the "variety".. I laughed it off, not thinking much of it, then he had the cheek to ask me for *** so he won't feel so curious! #$%@#$%@
Of cos, he is no longer my friend -.-
And I feel like a bigger idiot to have actually considered him as a good friend before. Sigh.
Well said!
Actually I have met someone like what souless said, an idiot who actually approach me even when he was married to a MODEL... just because he and I were really close friends at one point, and he shared about his curiosity on the "variety".. I laughed it off, not thinking much of it, then he had the cheek to ask me for *** so he won't feel so curious! #$%@#$%@
Of cos, he is no longer my friend -.-
And I feel like a bigger idiot to have actually considered him as a good friend before. Sigh.
blueswimmercrab
Member
well, i guess there are two groups of men who visits pros - 1) those who have lost hope in ever getting a female companion 2) those who just want to conquer woman. a similar thread in both is that these men dun always see women as humans, merely a sexual object. the key word is always. sometimes obviously they will but sometimes, they screw up and just treat women as some fantasy sexual object to screw. This kind of mentality arises more frequently becuase of hte porn industry, the media and advertising industry and forums goating men to treat women as sex objects.
of course, that is not to say some women do not treat men in the same way, just that women (imho) is not wired in the same way.
of course, that is not to say some women do not treat men in the same way, just that women (imho) is not wired in the same way.
I did an experiment today. Influenced by sammyboy, I thought about Sammy girl - a forum rating men. Then I really unconsciously started to rate the men walking around me. Fat old uncle? 1/10 for looks.. Gave me lecherous look somemore.. Definitely don't have CFM face! Then to my horror.. I realized most local men are 3/10... Cannot make it!! Where is the FILF??!! Waaahaaa
i think the police should be policing/raiding these websites regularly.
These women are soliciting customers. It's like those online bookies, they have no gambling license to take any gambling orders so they are illegal. These people do not have any prostitution license, do not undergo regulated health checks and therefore they are illegal.
The police should clamp down on these online pimps and/or self solicitors.
Juz_souless I agree with you on the easy access. Someone should regulate the source - ICA especially - how visas are granted out so easily especially the passports of those regularly going in & out of Singapore for no other purpose other than social visits? As well as those pei du mamas.
In UK, you have to show a bank statement of certain monies besides your university acceptance and health checks/report before they will grant you a visa. This should be done here as well. For hell, you do not go to another country to study, then cry & complain that you cannot find a job here to support your child's studies here, so you have to prostitute yourself.
These women are soliciting customers. It's like those online bookies, they have no gambling license to take any gambling orders so they are illegal. These people do not have any prostitution license, do not undergo regulated health checks and therefore they are illegal.
The police should clamp down on these online pimps and/or self solicitors.
Juz_souless I agree with you on the easy access. Someone should regulate the source - ICA especially - how visas are granted out so easily especially the passports of those regularly going in & out of Singapore for no other purpose other than social visits? As well as those pei du mamas.
In UK, you have to show a bank statement of certain monies besides your university acceptance and health checks/report before they will grant you a visa. This should be done here as well. For hell, you do not go to another country to study, then cry & complain that you cannot find a job here to support your child's studies here, so you have to prostitute yourself.
blueswimmercrab
Member
wasn't there some woman who set out a website some time ago to take photo of men / cars parked outside those hourly hotels in geylang? i totally support her. i mean, the women married to such men / or going to marry such men shoudl totally know what their men are up to. then they can make an informed choice.
I am seeking ways to address the forums with the local authorities, but their respond have been slow and evasive and inconclusive.
Can all of us with the exception of Khanlicker, think of other avenues for help?
These topic has stirred up quite a lot of "interest" -- see also Divorce or not because of prostitution.
Can all of us with the exception of Khanlicker, think of other avenues for help?
These topic has stirred up quite a lot of "interest" -- see also Divorce or not because of prostitution.
I think police should look into this issue,to arrest all those stupid prostitute,who dun want to go through the proper way to earn money and including all those helpers,who help them to pull business.i wish that everybody will be arrested.i am so piss off,as I will never forget that I caught my husband visiting their service.it makes me feel disgusted and to me,they are really too cheap.want to earn money,go through the proper way,they have hand and leg,not disable.why must they come and disturb all those married plp.i hate them,more than anybody.
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