IVF/ICSI Support Group

[DawnBB]

Oh I see. I remember that it is not recommended to do acupuncture when menstruating unless it is to help to regulate menses. I will check with my tcm again

Hello Sparkling_ee. I consult the same Physian Seah Ai Wei as Patn actually. As I have regular and normal AF, Dr Seah advised me that she prefers not to do acupuncture for me on Cycle day 1 and 2. On cycle days 3 or 4 she would adjusts her acupoints so as not to over stimulate bleeding flow, same concept as women are supposed to avoid eating blood flow stimulating foods while having AF. Stronger treatments focusing on Qi and blood are applied usually post AF then improving flow to ovaries & womb to prepare lining & follicles/ egg.

However in treatment for regulating menses, she would customise accordingly so she may apply different methods and may treat during AF. So it really depends on individual and the doc's approach.

 

[monkeyzai]

Anyone going for long protocol? Did not response well to short protocol and now doc wants to start long protocol....

 

[Domokunn]

Despite bleeding for 4 days, I bfp-ed! So to anyone who might be experiencing the same thing, make sure to keep up with the progesterone inserts even if there is blood. Pregnant till proven positive! Baby dusts to all!

Congrats!

 

[patn]

Oh.. Which Tcm are u with?

Hi
I am with Dr Seah Ai Wei from Thomson medical TCM.

 

[patn]

Hello Sparkling_ee. I consult the same Physian Seah Ai Wei as Patn actually. As I have regular and normal AF, Dr Seah advised me that she prefers not to do acupuncture for me on Cycle day 1 and 2. On cycle days 3 or 4 she would adjusts her acupoints so as not to over stimulate bleeding flow, same concept as women are supposed to avoid eating blood flow stimulating foods while having AF. Stronger treatments focusing on Qi and blood are applied usually post AF then improving flow to ovaries & womb to prepare lining & follicles/ egg.

However in treatment for regulating menses, she would customise accordingly so she may apply different methods and may treat during AF. So it really depends on individual and the doc's approach.

@Sparkling_ee Sorry I gave you the wrong information :S
For 2months plus now, all my acupuncture appointments always happened on non AF days.
The day I had AF (recently in end Dec) and acupuncture was I did acupuncture and then later in afternoon AF came. Actually Dr Seah never specifically asked me to avoid coming to acupuncture during AF period (only the very 1st session she asked me to visit after AF cleared).

 

[humbaobao]

can i ask when is the time tat we should start to consume the below items:

- eggwhite
- red dates and longan tea
- red bean soup
- Brazil nuts

Is there any other food that i had left out?

 

[Sparkling_ee]

@Sparkling_ee Sorry I gave you the wrong information :S
For 2months plus now, all my acupuncture appointments always happened on non AF days.
The day I had AF (recently in end Dec) and acupuncture was I did acupuncture and then later in afternoon AF came. Actually Dr Seah never specifically asked me to avoid coming to acupuncture during AF period (only the very 1st session she asked me to visit after AF cleared).

Thanks patn

Good to share all the info here so we can learn from one another and work towards same goal

You are cycling this month if I remember correctly?

 

[cherylng]

I would like to join too. My cycle starts tis mth Jan shld b ER on mid of Jan

Hi @Eggscatcher - pm me your hp no. & name so that I can add u into our wa grp...

 

[cherylng]

can i ask when is the time tat we should start to consume the below items:

- eggwhite
- red dates and longan tea
- red bean soup
- Brazil nuts

Is there any other food that i had left out?

Think can start all the food once u start your stimm. Protein rich food r good...

 

[Melody2512]

@cherylng, can i join too? Doing my ivf this month.

 

[Goingcircles]

Despite bleeding for 4 days, I bfp-ed! So to anyone who might be experiencing the same thing, make sure to keep up with the progesterone inserts even if there is blood. Pregnant till proven positive! Baby dusts to all!

Congrats on your bfp @littlejas! Is your bleeding light or heavy?

 

[humbaobao]

Think can start all the food once u start your stimm. Protein rich food r good...

sorry i m very noob. when is the stimm?

Btw can i join the chatgrp? i jus finish first appt wif bloodtest. 8mar doing viaginal ultrasound scan and see doc.

 

[wondersss]

Hi guys,

Im going to purchase some supps from iherb for the first time.

I need to check if im buying too much for the supps.. Do you think i still need to buy extra Vit C? If yes, any good brands to intro?

Thought of buying
1) DHEA
2) Healthy Origins, Ubiquinol ( Kaneka QH )
3) Rainbow Light, Just Once, Prenatal One, Food-Based Multivitamin,

@ Wynn0404: I have pm u.. please check.

 

[DawnBB]

Hi guys,

Im going to purchase some supps from iherb for the first time.

I need to check if im buying too much for the supps.. Do you think i still need to buy extra Vit C? If yes, any good brands to intro?

Thought of buying
1) DHEA
2) Healthy Origins, Ubiquinol ( Kaneka QH )
3) Rainbow Light, Just Once, Prenatal One, Food-Based Multivitamin,

@ Wynn0404: I have pm u.. please check.

Hello. If you are taking Rainbow Light prenatal, should be sufficient vit C so no need to add that.

 

[wondersss]

Hello. If you are taking Rainbow Light prenatal, should be sufficient vit C so no need to add that.

Hi DawnBB, Hope you are doing fine with your rainbow bb.. thanks for the advices and all your postings really encourage me to pick up myself again to continue this journey!

Do you think this is sufficient or any other supps to add-on?

 

[DawnBB]

Hi DawnBB, Hope you are doing fine with your rainbow bb.. thanks for the advices and all your postings really encourage me to pick up myself again to continue this journey!

Do you think this is sufficient or any other supps to add-on?

Thanks Wondersss.
The Rainbow Light prenatal is adequate. I also took Healthy Origins Ubiquinol. Additionally I have been taking fish oil even before Ivf and have continued since then.
All the best!

 

[Sparkling_ee]

I am thinking of buying raspberry leaf tea from iherbs, any recommended brand?

 

[Melody2512]

I am thinking of buying raspberry leaf tea from iherbs, any recommended brand?

Hi sparkling_ee, i bought this from iherb and been drinking this.

 

[Dreamscometrue]

Anyone here with nuh? Any updated news on whether the lab is undergoing renovation?

 

[Dreamscometrue]

Despite bleeding for 4 days, I bfp-ed! So to anyone who might be experiencing the same thing, make sure to keep up with the progesterone inserts even if there is blood. Pregnant till proven positive! Baby dusts to all!

Congrats! Which hosp are u with? What did the dr do when u bleed? Gave u more support?

 

[Dreamscometrue]

I didn't eat the meat. Esp the beef would be super dry & bland. I didn't add water so it pure essence. However I read it is ok to add 2 tablespoons water it you want. I think bunny33's post is a very good illustration.

By the way where do u get grass fed beef? I normally get from Ntuc but I don't know how are the cows fed

 

[DawnBB]

By the way where do u get grass fed beef? I normally get from Ntuc but I don't know how are the cows fed

I buy from Foodie Market Place at Outram Road (Tiong Bahru) area. In NTUC Finest, Culina meat counter (also sells ham) sells grass fed beef as well but much more expensive than Foodie Market Place.

https://m.facebook.com/FoodieMarketPlace/

 

[jean saw]

I buy from Foodie Market Place at Outram Road (Tiong Bahru) area. In NTUC Finest, Culina meat counter (also sells ham) sells grass fed beef as well but much more expensive than Foodie Market Place.

https://m.facebook.com/FoodieMarketPlace/

Hi DawnBB,
Congrats for the successful conception finally!
May I ask if you were saying that you took homemade chicken and beef essence alternately during the IVF 2WW?
If so, is this helpful for natural TTC 2WW as well?
Thanks in advance.

 

[Dreamscometrue]

I buy from Foodie Market Place at Outram Road (Tiong Bahru) area. In NTUC Finest, Culina meat counter (also sells ham) sells grass fed beef as well but much more expensive than Foodie Market Place.

https://m.facebook.com/FoodieMarketPlace/

Thanks for your super prompt reply.. So everyday during 2ww u cook ah? Anyone help u?

 

[DawnBB]

Hi DawnBB,
Congrats for the successful conception finally!
May I ask if you were saying that you took homemade chicken and beef essence alternately during the IVF 2WW?
If so, is this helpful for natural TTC 2WW as well?
Thanks in advance.

Thanks The essence is rich in protein and not overly heaty. I found that it is more suitable for me than taking longan red date tea which I realised tends to cause excess heat for me over time (tend to lead to headache or migraine and/or uncomfortably warm body for me). I do think it is ok too to have for natural cycles.

 

[DawnBB]

Thanks for your super prompt reply.. So everyday during 2ww u cook ah? Anyone help u?

Yup I cook myself daily because I'm not working. I read that some ladies who are working highly recommended Eu Yan Sang's ready made chicken essence.

 

[Domokunn]

Hi all need advise when will the next menses begin after a miscarriage? Dr confirmed I have miscarriage on my 6 weeks. Today was a roller coaster ride for me n DH, had our lst scan this morn n hear heartbeat n baby but shortly after I experienced blood clot n went to c Dr immediately. Did a scan n miscarriage confirm. Dr say my body is rejecting the embryo, anyone has similar experience before?

 

[littlejas]

Congrats! Which hosp are u with? What did the dr do when u bleed? Gave u more support?

I am with kkivf, Dr sadhana. But she was on leave and it was dr Jessie phoon that did transfer. To be honest, the kkh nurse did not handle it very well. Just told me monitor. She didn't even advise to go O&G if bleeding become heavy or something. I asked if can give support jab she said no. I was so upset for those 4 days and worried so much.

 

[littlejas]

Congrats on your bfp @littlejas! Is your bleeding light or heavy?

I had to change a panty liner about once every 4hours..I just knew it was not full menstruation because I have heavy flow for normal periods with blood clots. This bleeding was definitely lighter than my regular, but I would say still more than just spotting

 

[connie_hopeful]

I had to change a panty liner about once every 4hours..I just knew it was not full menstruation because I have heavy flow for normal periods with blood clots. This bleeding was definitely lighter than my regular, but I would say still more than just spotting

Hi congrats. What is e colour of your bleeding previously-red or pink?

 

[Dreamscometrue]

Yup I cook myself daily because I'm not working. I read that some ladies who are working highly recommended Eu Yan Sang's ready made chicken essence.

Previous cycle I cook the day after transfer.. All the squatting to take pots and pans.. Not sure that's one of the reasons to my early bleeding.. So next round I intend to get hubby to take AL to take care of me! But he can't cook! Wahaha..

 

[DawnBB]

Previous cycle I cook the day after transfer.. All the squatting to take pots and pans.. Not sure that's one of the reasons to my early bleeding.. So next round I intend to get hubby to take AL to take care of me! But he can't cook! Wahaha..

I did place the things I need on the counter top to allow easy access and avoid too much straining. If I don't feel well or tired, just let hubby do washing when he's back. Otherwise you can teach him how to do it, should be able to get by. I found that the 2wws after bfp even more restrictive and I was literally incapacitated as feel very paranoid perhaps also due to hormones

 

[tsf0205]

Any ladies planning to do ivf in March at kkh under tan hh? Wanna start a watsapp group. I have created one in nov in my 1st cycle n going for my 2nd cycle fresh in march.

Me. Doing in March.

 

[littlejas]

Hi congrats. What is e colour of your bleeding previously-red or pink?

It started as pink and even went to red (when wipe and insert utrogestan, will see red). But I noticed that after I insert progesterone then it will get better for a while before the bleeding start again, so I really do think it's about getting enough support. But I had no cramps, which is also something a little different from my usual periods.

 

[connie_hopeful]

It started as pink and even went to red (when wipe and insert utrogestan, will see red). But I noticed that after I insert progesterone then it will get better for a while before the bleeding start again, so I really do think it's about getting enough support. But I had no cramps, which is also something a little different from my usual periods.

Thanks for e reply. I never believe seeing red will still bfp. As every time i see red its a bfn. But its good to hear that bfp do happen though see red. Njoy yr motherhood journey.

 

[littlejas]

Thanks for e reply. I never believe seeing red will still bfp. As every time i see red its a bfn. But its good to hear that bfp do happen though see red. Njoy yr motherhood journey.

Thanks. But maybe because my start was rocky with the bleeding, even if I try not to, i am always worried about the pregnancy..

 

[connie_hopeful]

Thanks. But maybe because my start was rocky with the bleeding, even if I try not to, i am always worried about the pregnancy..

I think worried is part and parcel of us ladies going through ivf. U have cross the 1st journey to bfp le. U can do it to hold a bb in yr hands. Jiayou!

 

[Wynn0404]

Hi guys,

Im going to purchase some supps from iherb for the first time.

I need to check if im buying too much for the supps.. Do you think i still need to buy extra Vit C? If yes, any good brands to intro?

Thought of buying
1) DHEA
2) Healthy Origins, Ubiquinol ( Kaneka QH )
3) Rainbow Light, Just Once, Prenatal One, Food-Based Multivitamin,

@ Wynn0404: I have pm u.. please check.

Hi wondersss, i just log in here and saw your message. I have reply to you.

 

[pimpim]

Hello Sparkling_ee. I consult the same Physian Seah Ai Wei as Patn actually. As I have regular and normal AF, Dr Seah advised me that she prefers not to do acupuncture for me on Cycle day 1 and 2. On cycle days 3 or 4 she would adjusts her acupoints so as not to over stimulate bleeding flow, same concept as women are supposed to avoid eating blood flow stimulating foods while having AF. Stronger treatments focusing on Qi and blood are applied usually post AF then improving flow to ovaries & womb to prepare lining & follicles/ egg.

However in treatment for regulating menses, she would customise accordingly so she may apply different methods and may treat during AF. So it really depends on individual and the doc's approach.

Hi DawnBB

May I know what are the food that simulate blood flow ? Sorry for silky q...

 

[pimpim]

Hi ladies. .

Khind has a double boiler that can be used to double boil chicken essence.

http://khindonline.com/products/Khind-Anshin-Double-Boiler-DB600/150

 

[cherylng]

sorry i m very noob. when is the stimm?

Btw can i join the chatgrp? i jus finish first appt wif bloodtest. 8mar doing viaginal ultrasound scan and see doc.

Stimm is when u begin all the injections...
Sure u can join us if u don't mind us bombing your hp. Haha. Pm me your name & no...

 

[DawnBB]

Hi DawnBB

May I know what are the food that simulate blood flow ? Sorry for silky q...

Some foods in tcm terms are overly stimulating for blood flow (have effects of making blood "alive" - 活血). E.g. Black fungus, mutton, wine, Chinese black vinegar, strong spices such as 5 spices, star anise, chilli peppercorns, red/black sugar, dang gui, etc. Yet also have avoid foods that cause cold and restrict blood circulation (cause blood stasis), e.g. black tea, cold drinks & foods, crabs, melons etc. These can cause imbalance and restrict absorption of nutrients to the vital organs including ovaries & womb after menses.

 

[Celestialbaby]

Hi all need advise when will the next menses begin after a miscarriage? Dr confirmed I have miscarriage on my 6 weeks. Today was a roller coaster ride for me n DH, had our lst scan this morn n hear heartbeat n baby but shortly after I experienced blood clot n went to c Dr immediately. Did a scan n miscarriage confirm. Dr say my body is rejecting the embryo, anyone has similar experience before?

Hugs Domokunn. I'm very sorry to hear this. Is there really nothing doc can do for you since you have heard bb's heartbeat just a while ago b4 doc telling u you hv mc? Would seeing Dr Choolani for 2nd opinion help since he specialise in high risk pregnancy and helps women who mc? Maybe there's a support meds he can prescribe to save the pregnancy. Sorry I can't answer when menses would come after mc but hope u focus on trying to see if something can be helped before resigning to it. Take care.

 

[bbpooh81]

Hi ladies, I will be gg thru my ET this Thursday. However, I recently had very bad food posioning that took place a couple of days ago that resulted me in gg to hospital for a drip. I am now feeling better but am wondering if this will affect the quality of the eggs. Wondering if I shld abort this cycle. I google abit and seems that it will affect. Appreciate any advice or successful stories where illness during stimulation will not affect egg quality. Thanks.

 

[humbaobao]

Hi ladies. .

Khind has a double boiler that can be used to double boil chicken essence.

http://khindonline.com/products/Khind-Anshin-Double-Boiler-DB600/150

Toyomi haf aso.. u can get at OG

 

[babyloveyou]

Thanks Wondersss.
The Rainbow Light prenatal is adequate. I also took Healthy Origins Ubiquinol. Additionally I have been taking fish oil even before Ivf and have continued since then.
All the best!

Hi Dawnbb, congrats on your BFP! been reading your posts which really motivates me so much. I'm thinking of taking Rainbow Light prenatal too instead of my current CW..may i know which Rainbow Light prenatal did you take? saw various types on Iherb. Also, how many months before IVF did you take 300mg Ubiquinol? Did you start with 300mg or only increased to 300mg few months before IVF?

 

[jenlam15]

Anyone during 2ww had spotting before blood test and when it start to show signs of bleeding?

 

[jenlam15]

I am with kkivf, Dr sadhana. But she was on leave and it was dr Jessie phoon that did transfer. To be honest, the kkh nurse did not handle it very well. Just told me monitor. She didn't even advise to go O&G if bleeding become heavy or something. I asked if can give support jab she said no. I was so upset for those 4 days and worried so much.

Hi littlejas, did kkh arranged to do ultrasound? or was the 4 days bleeding during 2ww?

 

[DawnBB]

Hi Dawnbb, congrats on your BFP! been reading your posts which really motivates me so much. I'm thinking of taking Rainbow Light prenatal too instead of my current CW..may i know which Rainbow Light prenatal did you take? saw various types on Iherb. Also, how many months before IVF did you take 300mg Ubiquinol? Did you start with 300mg or only increased to 300mg few months before IVF?

Hello Babyloveyou. Thanks
I'm taking Rainbow Light, Just Once, Prenatal One, Food-Based Multivitamin
http://sg.m.iherb.com/Rainbow-Light-Just-Once-Prenatal-One-Food-Based-Multivitamin-150-Tablets/14369
Since I started taking Ubiquinol in Jan 2015, I took what hubby has bought for himself which is 300mg so I didn't need to buy separately. We continued at this dosage since then and still taking.

 

[littlejas]

Hi littlejas, did kkh arranged to do ultrasound? or was the 4 days bleeding during 2ww?

4 days bleeding was during 2ww