Blue_Cloud, I went to parent craft centre at Mount Alvernia for help on my blocked milk ducts. milk couldnt flow out and it was causing me so much pain. the lactation consultant massage and hand express my milk out for over an hour patiently. she taught me the massaging methods and was very encouraging. FYI, i paid $60+ for that consultation. you might want to call and make appointment and they will teach you how to latch the baby also.