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Hi Jane, mine is pictures. Yet to do words cuz I'm very busy n lazy. Hahaha. I DIY my cards.

Yes! Dancing! Er.. My boy can dance 'head &amp; shoulders' n 'if you r happy'. Commercials, he loves the shop n save chic dance n 'London choco roll...' really LOL!
 


hi Jeanie,

ppl says word more effective. But i believe every dividual is diff. i prefer picture.

Same here. she love the shop n save. the one abt the fake teeth, u knw the two old couple. When she saw this , she will sing ha.......... the ' Wei Ken Renovation " she love the baby girl.

think most babies r the same. They have their preference.Your boy attend any course yet?
 
Jane, ok. Think I'll start some simple words. I've got the baby can read DVD. They will flash words. And leapfrog DVD for phonics. Helps him in better pronunciation.

Yet to attend any course. Your girl?
 
ya talking abt leapfrog.
I went amazone but cant buy. may I know where to buy?
I'm a tutor so kind of understand every primary school age what is required of them to know.

Start w Chinese Character first. The chinese word look like piece of drawing. Good for kids.

I start w chinese flashcards w my girl since she is one yr old. but only twice a week. I tried flashing everyday for a week. She lost interest and walk away once she saw me taking out the card. so i tired twice a week. She is very excited whenever i take out. I think attention span very impt. Duration not a factor.

My girl didnt attend any course yet. i think she is not ready yet. Once an experience elder teacher told me. Thing that kids can pick up at certain age, dun do it if she hasnt reach the age. It's double work.

Example: Teach the kids alphabet when he is 2months old. everyday u do it for one yr plus. However, most kid when reach 3 yr, can recognise aphabet if u just teach them 5 letters each day. In a month, they will know all. She told me isnt it same.
 
Oh. I got it through sprees. U go to overseas spree website in Smh forum. But dun think u can post in there yet. So you can find a organizer n pm her ur order. Look for amazon spree. I bought learning factory vol 1&amp;2. Cuz usd is good now. Hehe

I've got chi books that has pic n characters. Works the same?

I'm not very academic. I'm looking for classes to let my boy socialize n enjoy. Academic is latter. More on character moulding as my boy is quite anti social outside.

I'm a sahm but I've got another 4months old boy. So busy that I used to read to him daily, now probably once every few days.
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yoyo... i am back!
sooo busy with work tat hardly hv time to come here!

now slightly better.
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I am organising SPREE!
amazon/on/Polo with additional 10%/ or any other usa sites.
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email me : [email protected]
 
Jeanie, yup same thing. Pic and words is ok. Chinese character the kid has more interests.

U can enrol playgroup for him. I intend to enrol my girl for next yr Apple Tree. is around 195 per month. Consider the cheapest.Just need her to socialise. I dun see the need to send her for 1k+ per month playgroup. Going save up the money for other use. There is more to come when they in primary school. And especially when we have 2nd kid.

I'm lost with the "spree" thing.
 
I'm looking for playgroup too. But before that, i got to bring him to some classes to socialise a bit. Like a weekend enrichment class. If not, I'm sure he will cry his lungs out n vomit all over in that two full hours.

I dun hv budget for 1k plus classes! Lol!! There are not much PG in my area. Better ones are driving distance. Not convenient as I still got a baby. Tho they are accepting his age group Liao. I'm looking at apple tree or talentplus.

I think u can join mtdt spree. She does amazon.
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i dun understand the spree thing. Will email her.

Where u stay? I'm sending my girl to appletree which is just next street across. I'm working. So my mum will help to send. I dun wish my mum to travel far. Agree. U still have one more baby and many things to consider.

I heard of many back feedback of apple tree. To me, this price is what we get. 1 teacher to big group. If wan more discipline environment, then pay more for those 1:4 . To me not much different, we need to look at our own child before critising the teacher.
 
Jane, yah! I agree. Must see own child pattern. I'm prep to receive calls of complaint next time. He is super mischief. But he's totally opposite outside.

I'm staying at bukit panjang. Still scouting for a suitable PG. But settle weekend class first. Hehe.
 
Me also still looking for PG. Choa chu kang area. I also looking for something walking distance for mum to send. Some PGs offer bus service but I can't imagine putting our 18 mth on school bus lor. So have to choose nearby. Weekend enrichment then go further. Anyone heard of Ichiban montesorri?
 
All of u all looking for PG ? Those 2hrs PG ?

I hv one PG downstairs (9-11 / 11.15-1.15pm) but we are thinking of putting her to CC next Jan'12.
So need to relook again althou we did seen a few previously but later put on hold our 'mission' to see more as was occupied.....;p
 
Jane,
I've enrolled my boy for AppleTree too. AMK branch.
Even very average PG like AppleTree the registeration was such a chaotic. I cant imgaine P1 registration....

While I was filling up the form, the teacher already mentioned that all the 15 slots for morning has already been taken up by those who has reg online... But luckily a kind mum swop slot with me..
So mummies who intend to place your kids in AppleTree, pls reg online now.
 
Jeannie - Exchange rate - as per CC.
collection pt: Novena/balestier..

appletree is a reputatble playgroup.
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Jeanie, tks. My mum plc. Not many PG within walking distance. I dun wan them to have to travel la. Yet to check out that Ichiban montesorri, from outside looks so so. Good thing is they have all the way to kindergarten.
 
hi jeanie,

I came across many students in my centre. So i used to receive parents' complaint. Most unreasonable and very protective of their child. They cant accept their kids bad bahavious and insists teachers must pay full attention. But in my heart, I'm thinking u not paying for one - one tuition. {Maybe I'm bad with this thinking}

So i know whatever course my girl attend I need to " see open" . Noisy classroom, crying classmate, violent classmate etc.... all are part of classroom environment and their growing up. As long not too extreme. think, we parent still must learn to accept.

I always believe u get what u pay. I mean enviroment and teacher but not progress. Cuz every child is diff. Cant blame anyone if our child shown no improvement. after all they still young.

Just A joke: My student told me his mum always blame him for being not smart. And say spend lots of money on him for course n tuition. The son replied: After all is ur fault that I'm not smart, U r the one who bring me to this world and must be you and father genes that's y I'm not smart.

Snow: My reg starts in July. Not so early. And cant reg online. My side apple tree need go down personally to reg. Evening time. I'm working and call them can come eariler, they say cant. So i told them i will send my mum down with my girl doc, but she is illiterate. Can anyone help her fill up. They reply they dun have the time. Wonder whether they have time to collect the fees or we can come another day to pay?

hi GG,
Me staying in Choa Chu Kang also. Been searching for playgroup but not much good one. The one at sunshine not worth the value we pay. I have been teaching more than 10 yr here so know some inside here n there. Receive quite valuable feedback from my students parents.


Think Apple trees is just a place for my girl to learn in more real life enviroment. She must know how to cope w bullies, crying from her classmate, snatching of toys, pushing...etc..... But maybe she is the one who bully others. Then its time to teach her since her character starts to surface.
 
Jane, tks. Ya, my husband also always say no choice the tods must learn to face reality of life. At home so protected, everyone gives in to them. Outside they must learn that they don't get what they wan, and also must learn to fend for themselves. Near my block got only ichiban montessori and ace educare. Ace I checked out was very disappointing cos a lot of china helpers and place very "lok"!
 
hi GG,

Did U check the ichiban?
Is it childcare as well?

muz be careful of helpers. They very irresponsible. another word, heartless. I dun encourage playgroup conducted in childcare which they put child care stu n our kids together. The child care stu get more attention and their fee higher based on full day. The centre cant afford to lose them. They let our kids join in , to me is just like trying to make up more stu and earn. The helper is usually the cleaner auntie who take care of their child care meal. No experience in playgroup and always seen missing to do her own meal esp 10am plus. Just my experience.

The cck stadium tumble tots? playgroup only for 3ys+. Not good feedback also. our area here no good playgroup.
 
I didn't know must book now for next yr intake. Think I gotta make a decision fast. I'm always dilly dally..
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GG, Jane, thanks for the inputs. I agree we cannot over protective about our kids. Can't avoid kenna bully. Jane, u r a teacher?
 
Jane, ya quite jialat leh! I checked w Ichiban they say only take from 2.5 yrs old preschool. Thot I saw they got put up playgroup poster. Weird. Cham Liao, dunno can go where?!!
 
Jane
go to appletree.com.sg to reg online 1st. Then on d day of reg u hv to go dwn to pay d sch fee + 95 haf yearly material fee. Priority will b given to those who hv reg online. N once u reg online dun nid to fill up any form on d day of reg. Juz ask yr mum to go pay fee will do
 
Jeanie

Must register now. They very Kiasu. Must reg and pay in full. I find the reg too early. But no choice. U check on their website or call them for more info. I teach pri n sec student. Been working in many diff kind centre so know their inside out.

GG,

U have other playgroup in ur area? Like apple tree? Better go and find out more.
playgroup suitable age should be 3ys. Cuz they dun need parents by their side. Learn to be independent. However, many start to accept 2.5 yr as to earn. so even 18 mth. Imagine our children now went for playgroup with playmate of 2.5 yr or some even 3ys. how to blend in? Ours still cant be left alone without us.Why some playgroup accept 18mths and above? U realise most of them is child care centre as i mention previous. U see the point. enrichment program is diff. Parents must be accompanied cuz the teacher know they cant handle many kids at a time. And after the class all parents will leave w their child.

Childcare centre is for working mums to leave their children in their care. Working parents cant accompanied them. Therefore playgroup in child care centre dun allowed parent to accompany the child even is only 18mth old. I dun advise playgroup in child care centre.

Reason i choose Apple Tree cuz they do year by year registration. Class start in Jan. All 2009 babies will start in Jan next yr. All will be around same age. though ours is dec babies, only 25mth, there is also sep - nov babies. Therefore more uniform age.

Other playgroup accept 18mth to 3 ys. All went in diff time , age gap too wide. How can they teach to Compromise the children?

I prefer to send my girl to apple tree to know friends of her age. And one thing good, cuz we tend to choose apple tree near our house, some might become classmate in Kinder or even primary. At least is their childhood memories. Not like hi-bye fren. Then weekends can opt for other enrichment course.

Above is just only my opinion.
 
hi snow,
my area cant reg online. No online button to click and i called them up. They say this area no online.
other than fee, we need pay for uniform?

U rem roughly what must be filled up so that i can write down all info for my mum, and ask her bring down.
 
hi Jane,
the tr in appletree (near my plc) told me 1st day 3rd Jan 2012 will pay &amp; collect uniforms and 1st day will be an hour session.
1st Payment: $175 + $95
don't think need to pay reg. fee.
 
Jeanie, online reg accepted? If not, dun miss the date.

Augleo,

Ist day will start on 3rd Jan cuz 1st JAn is on sun. So following 2nd Jan will be holiday too. Same as Pri sch, 3rd Jan first day.

1st day then take uniform. If 3rd Jan is the first day, then uniform should take before that. How can they use 1st day for " Sale of books n uniform" . See how they earn our fee. If really like that, then we mus feedback to the headquarter or forum page. No wonder so many bad review about them . They should take all those feedback n review seriously.

Not cuz I'm working, i wun wan send my girl to apple tree. I can do playgroup myself.

By the way, if we wan to withdraw, mus give one mth notice is it?
 
hi

i send my girl for enrichment course today.Her first class since born. Very disappointed. everything not as what i expected.
The classroom is small. Only One teacher in class. She read story from a "big" book, which most student cant see. Parents n children all sit so far away from teacher. A few kids went near teacher and keep pointing at the picture. Those parents just sit there without pulling back their kids.In the end, the rest cant see. Perhap parents are so tired of taking care of them. Just sit there n let the child walk around.

Then two kids knocked against each other and start crying. Parents trying to coax their kids. Waste of time.Teacher are so boring.

Then come art n craft time. colouring n pasting all done by parents and MAIDS. While the little prince n princess sit n watch. Teacher walk around not checking the work or communicating w the children. Instead she chat w the maids.

Then come matching time. Everyone has a set of material to match. Less than 2 mins, they collect back the material. Parents not enough time to guide n some kids had not even start matching it.

Next come singing time. after 2 songs then give musical instrument. One more song w the instrument then collect back. My girl cried when the class just sudden end.

Everything went so fast till me as parent find it so rush n how can kids accept it. No "opening" n worse "no closing ceremony" for every activities. Everything just come n go so fast.

Today lesson suppose to learn a letter sound. The theme is there but no introduction of sound is made. The teacher dun even pronoun the letter n say the sound at all. Can u imagine that? Even before I start my class, i will introduce the topic I'm going thru. Eg....topic "Capacity". e,g "Class, weather hot today. lets drink water together before the lesson start" " How much did u drink?" " Look at ur water bottle, is the volume of water lesser?"

All these was conducted within an hour. Even I feel lost after the class. My girl has no idea what was the lesson abt? Cant even relate anything to me till now?



I dun know is it courses for toddlers suppose to be this way ? Is it I'm too demanding? I'm not blaming the teacher. But I just find it not right. I know I dun have experience teaching toddlers. So not in any position to comment on this?

Anyone send their kids for course? Can advise me?
 
Hi Jane, they didn't mention about online registration. Guess it's not applicable.

What class did you attend to? Why u day it's waste of time &amp; teacher is boring when parents are coaxing their kids?
 
Jane : which enrichment class u referring ? Which school ?
Is it trial class or actual class u register ?
If actual class, then u didnt go for trial class first ?
 
Ok, we decided to let our bb go for 2-hr playground every wkday downstairs soon (maybe aug or sept period).....;p
Next yr then will expose her to CC.

Sometimes cant stand my MIL as she keeps exposing bb to 'negative' thoughts to bb &amp; will "diao po ling jiang'.
Eveything I do she not happy &amp; feels it's wrong.
She keeps thinking she's the only one understand bb &amp; who knows how to take care of bb....:s
 
Jane, wat class is dat? The structure for many classes I think also more or less the same but the teachers make the big difference.

Ms tan, wat happened? Old folks sometimes are like dat. My own mum sometimes irritates me too, not to mention mil. But I jialat, can't find playground anywhere near yet lor!!
 
GG : well, I told her that now bb bigger no need to drink so much milk but feed more food rather but she not happy &amp; can said that bb bigger shld drink more milk instead.
She seems all along like to feed my bb milk rather than food.
She can go behide my back &amp; grumble/complain abt this &amp; that.
I buy bananas &amp; watermelon for bb to eat then she will comment that bananas &amp; watermelon too cooling cannnot eat so often.
Sometimes over the wkend, I will feed bb 'special/different food' (as I like to expose bb to different food) then the next day (Mon) when bb poo, she can comment wat I feed bb ?
Boi tahan her.
 
Jeanie,
Is Phonic class. The teacher cant catch the kids attention. Just like she living in her own teaching world. Those parents made no effort in asking the kids to sit. I know it's difficult ctrl them but if they wan to wander, can. Do it at the corner. But they just let the kids wander in the teaching area, n the rest cant see wat the teacher is teaching. Parents just sit still. Should pull back their kids. Then accident happened, kids bang into each other heads and crying start. Teacher stop teaching and time waste.

Ms Tan,
I didnt try the trial class. I just register for the actual class. i tot should be fine since parents must accompany the kids. At least more control environment. Now think I should see how the subsequent lesson goes.

MIL is like these. I feed my girl ice cream n durian before she turns 8 mth. just a small portion can one lar. Only those elderly too nagging. I feed her lesser milk cuz now she is taking proper meal twice a day.

GG,
I agree the teaching n activity more or less the same.But teacher really make a different. Maybe we dun have a good teacher.
 
Ms tan, I see. I kena from my mum when I let my son eat yogurt and happen dat he gets cough next day. And weekend I cook pasta for my son I think my mil also like to peep and see wats that. Same when I give avocado. Actually most food eat in moderation ok one la.

As for milk I kena from my mum when I told her no need give so much. End up I give up liao since she still got give him 3 proper meals, just dat she also give 4 milk feeds of 240ml. U close eye as long my son still takes.

Jane, which school is dat? Zoo phonics? I tried growing up gifted, was quite ok. The teachers will control the kids. Your class they put how many teachers?
 
GG, yup. They only put one teacher. I felt very disappointed.

I cant find good playgroup here. Playgroup in child care i dun like.

How?
 
GG : wkend I also sometimes cook pasta &amp; let my bb eat. Also let bb try beef as my MIL dun take beef so will never cook beef.

In total bb also hv 3 proper meals - bf, lunch &amp; dinner.

Yes, my MIL also like to feed my bb milk too total 4X a day.
Morning when she wake up I will feed her milk 1st.
Then during the day MIL will feed her 2X milk &amp; lastly b4 bb sleep I will feed her.
Wat MIL to elimate 1 milk feed she keeps insisting that bb need/wat to drink more milk.
Hey, during the wkends I only feed 3X milk feed as ok wat.
MIL still hv the old mentality that milk is the main course for bb.
 
Anymore keen ?

Musikgarten free trial class (30mins) on 9 July, Sat at 4.30pm at Jurong West (next to Pioneer mrt)

1) ms tan
2) jeanietan
3) DecMum! (veronica)
4) firipy
5)
6)


Anymore pax keen can still add on as max 6 pax in the class then PM me your following details.

Name of Parent :
Email address:
Contact no(s) : Mobile
Name of Child :
Date of Birth of Child :
Yr Location : e.g. Jurong East / Jurong West / Bt Panjang etc
 
Hi mummies,

Anyone keen to sign up Positive Focus class (Positive Tots, 16-24mths) ?
http://www.positivefocus.com.sg/

Anyone keen to sign up plse PM me.
I hv special rate for 1st 8 classes provided 4 mummies sign up. Now only lacking 1 more mummy.
Tentatively to start in Aug.

Positive Tots Class : Sat @ 4.15pm @ City Sq Mall #09-06 (8 classes) tentatively to start in Aug

1) Ms Tan
2) Jeanie
3) Justalamb
4)
 
Jane, Tks for sharing. There is one zoo phonics near my plc too but I saw some not so good reviews so gave it a miss. Most classes for tods have more than 1 teachers unless class size v small. GUG has 2 teachers per class, JG has 4, my little genius has only 1 teacher but only 4 tods in a class so still not so bad. Maybe see if u can feedback to school or ask if can withdraw if really no good.
 
Think they wun let us withdraw like this. Still have to let her finish one term and see how.
hai..........
Apple tree reg coming near. Still cant find another playgroup here.

Any recommendation of playgroup in cck?
 
Or u see if u can change class? Sometimes the teachers are different for different timing. I can't find a decent PG near CCK lor!
 
Anymore keen ?

CONFIRM Musikgarten free trial class (30mins) on 9 July, Sat at 4.30pm at Jurong West (next to Pioneer mrt)

1) ms tan
2) jeanietan- will sms/email u the exact address
3) DecMum! (veronica)- will sms/email u the exact address
4) firipy- will sms/email u the exact address
5)
6)


Anymore pax keen can still add on as max 6 pax in the class then PM me your following details.

Name of Parent :
Email address:
Contact no(s) : Mobile
Name of Child :
Date of Birth of Child :
Yr Location : e.g. Jurong East / Jurong West / Bt Panjang etc
 
There is 5 Apple Tree centres in cck. The nearest i think is blk 340. Just opposite lot 1. U stay near yew tee? Can try the tumble tot. Me not sure good or not. But seemed better than Apple tree. Is too far from my place.
 



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