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I googled and its something called hydrosalpinges... fluids that is formed at the tubes and causing the tubes to be swollen.. woman with this prob has a lower ivf success rates compared to other infertility issues..
Dr suspected because i have swollen tubes and i have watery discharge v frequently.. i did a laparoscopy in 2010 and i showed the dr the picture of the tubes and of cos in 2010, the tubes werent that bad.. the fluid will accumulate... this fluid will cause inplantation issue as its toxic to the embryo and even if BFP, will lead to lower delivery rates!
By removing the tubes, the success rates of ivf is higher from what i read...

One of my friends had this same problem and Dr Tan HH also advised her to remove. She took out 1 side of her tubes, now waiting to start a fresh cycle. Dr also told her will lessen her chances of success if the dirty water back flows.
 
As we were on an earlier topic of consulting endocrine specialist or reproductive immunologists dr Sheila and dr choolani, found this article and thought I'll share it.

http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/she-helps-couples-with-recurrent-miscarriages

May help those with unexplained infertility or recurrent miscarriages.

For me I suspect I don't ovulate sometimes though my tests come back normal so I might go and see them for a third opinion as the Ivf docs aren't giving me any answers. Read there's such a condition known as LUF (lutenized unruptured follicle) whereby u have a matured follicle but it doesn't get released.suspect I might have this so may go to Dr with immunology interest for a check.
 
As we were on an earlier topic of consulting endocrine specialist or reproductive immunologists dr Sheila and dr choolani, found this article and thought I'll share it.

http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/she-helps-couples-with-recurrent-miscarriages

May help those with unexplained infertility or recurrent miscarriages.

For me I suspect I don't ovulate sometimes though my tests come back normal so I might go and see them for a third opinion as the Ivf docs aren't giving me any answers. Read there's such a condition known as LUF (lutenized unruptured follicle) whereby u have a matured follicle but it doesn't get released.suspect I might have this so may go to Dr with immunology interest for a check.

Found out last week that kkh is starting a recurring pregnancy loss dept beginning in July. Thh has referred me to a dr there.
 
Anyone had progestrone jab and then started to spot? I had this issues after each jab. Its twice a week jab. Its dark brown spot then stop. Yest was red upon wiping with dark brown spot. And then stopped. I want to go o&g emergency but its stoped and not fresh blood red.so i thought why dun i get input frm u guys.am in my early stage after positive hcg.
 
One of my friends had this same problem and Dr Tan HH also advised her to remove. She took out 1 side of her tubes, now waiting to start a fresh cycle. Dr also told her will lessen her chances of success if the dirty water back flows.
I read online and many also said its best to remove the tubes since the tubes are of no use to us as we could not conceive naturally even we have the tubes...
 
Hi ladies, can I ask a few questions? I will be going for my ivf fresh this coming July and would like to maximize the chances of implantation.

1) TCM - I am thinking of going to Dr Zou for acupuncture and meds, any reviews on her?

2) Progesterone Jab - Does KKH offers it? Or we can only go to private doctor after the transfer. Also if we take the jab, do we need to inform KKH?

3) If I take the progesterone jab, is it fine to take the intralipids as well? Will they clash?

4) Other than vitamins, TCM, red dates drink and red bean soup during the 2ww, is there anything else I can do? Or anything I should not take in the 2ww that is mentioned above?

Thank you all in advance!


1) I went to dr Zou before n though she has good review I don't find her particularly caring n the acu place I find it not as hygienic but that's my personal feel. Many ppl do succeed with her.

2) yes Kkh offer it. U can request. If it's a daily progesterone jab do note that the needle quite Long n it's kind of painful to jab every single day.

3) won't clash but best to inform your dr to be sure.

4) just enjoy your 2ww. Treat it as a break away from work. Embryo implant or not depends on the embryo quality n not what u do.
 
I just had miscarriage 3weeks ago, now quite sick of the whole process so attempting to go natural...my case is purely male factor and western doctors (I saw 3) all directed us straight to ivf--icsi or a surgery for hubby...but after the miscarriage when I asked my ivf doctor how the sperms are picked in kkh...She replied that it's based on what the embryologist saw at that point in time..
When I talked to my tcm, he was like..unless your embryologist is someone u know, otherwise who will help u properly pick the best sperm..they just quickly pick a moving sperm and inject it into the egg right..
Quite disappointed cos I started out optimistic with 50 eggs and only ended up with 4 blasts, and used up 3 with no take home baby..actually considering paying the money and going to virtus fertility centre which is well known for their lab...I've been emotionally unstable for almost a year from the continuous western n Chinese medication and I'm gonna stop western med and trying natural for 6 months first then see how again...feeling much better now actually...Not sure if anyone here is also having ivf due to male factor..doesn't seem common..

A miscarriage occurs most of the time is because our embryo is chromosome abnormal. Visually no one can see. The lab pick on the best sperm by processing it first n Yes select the fastest moving m active one. N it's not just male factor that affect. Usually it's a woman egg that affect. Sperm plays a smaller part. Which is why an old man can make a young Wife preg. N woman as we age success will dropped. However don't despair we all have a pool of good n bad eggs n just need time n luck to find the right one.
 
I googled and its something called hydrosalpinges... fluids that is formed at the tubes and causing the tubes to be swollen.. woman with this prob has a lower ivf success rates compared to other infertility issues..
Dr suspected because i have swollen tubes and i have watery discharge v frequently.. i did a laparoscopy in 2010 and i showed the dr the picture of the tubes and of cos in 2010, the tubes werent that bad.. the fluid will accumulate... this fluid will cause inplantation issue as its toxic to the embryo and even if BFP, will lead to lower delivery rates!
By removing the tubes, the success rates of ivf is higher from what i read...

I have fren who removed to tube n bfp on ivf twice. Maybe she can explain more if she is still in the forum.
 
Hi ladies, after my last check up last week with Doc Sheila Loh @kkh, she is already registered me for IVF in September 2017
However we still have to wait for call from KKH for 6-8weeks later to confirm the slot.

What im suppose to do during this time...any advice?? Thanks
 
Hi ladies, after my last check up last week with Doc Sheila Loh @kkh, she is already registered me for IVF in September 2017
However we still have to wait for call from KKH for 6-8weeks later to confirm the slot.

What im suppose to do during this time...any advice?? Thanks

Hello. Im under kkh also dr sheila loh. For me, kkh called to confirm slot.
 
Thanks ladies for your advice! My lining increased to 7.5 triple in my last scan today. Scheduled to do transfer this Thursday, praying for a bfp!
Hi,

I went tcm, she say above 8mm then gd for implant. Seems like thicker higher chance of implant so continue to eat more protein, red bean soup, red date drinks etc...
Good Luck & Baby dust to you
 
Wow. So what did u do to increase the lining? It more than doubled in such few days.

It could be a few factors. Doc did say that when lining will increase faster closer to ovulation, my opk was positive today.

I drank red bean soup daily, raspberry tea, tcm herbs twice a day, ate Brazil nuts, did Accupuncture on alternate days to increase blood flow. I think tcm helped to warm up my womb, better bowel movements. Also went running to improve blood circulation.

Not forgetting to pray at the Shuang lin temple, ate the red eggs with hubby. All that done in a weekend!
 
Hi babe, is Dr Zou good? How's your experience with her? Thinking of going to her for acupuncture and TCM med
Hi, I went to Dr Zou before and did acupuncture for 6 months but I don't feel any connection with her. I always hear her talking to some patients and explain their conditions to them but Dr Zou seldom talk to me. Only when I asked her like if there is any issue with me, she will just reply me a few words. What I don't like is the queue, even when we made appt already, I still have to wait for a long time. Usually have to spend min. 2 hours in her clinic. I stopped going to her after I failed 2 IUIs cos I want to have a break. So it really depends on individuals.
 
Hi, I went to Dr Zou before and did acupuncture for 6 months but I don't feel any connection with her. I always hear her talking to some patients and explain their conditions to them but Dr Zou seldom talk to me. Only when I asked her like if there is any issue with me, she will just reply me a few words. What I don't like is the queue, even when we made appt already, I still have to wait for a long time. Usually have to spend min. 2 hours in her clinic. I stopped going to her after I failed 2 IUIs cos I want to have a break. So it really depends on individuals.
I also went to dr Zou for a while. the first few times are quite good. I chat with her and her husband, daughter in law quite well. then I realize her prescription of TCM are fixed formula according to different weeks of a cycle. I remember they name it as nr 1 2 3 &4 prescription. isnt TCM should be adjusted individually cos everyone is different, the Qi and Xue are differ from people to people. so I stopped visiting her after a couple of months. so I just try to eat healthy, rest well and exercise.
 
I also went to dr Zou for a while. the first few times are quite good. I chat with her and her husband, daughter in law quite well. then I realize her prescription of TCM are fixed formula according to different weeks of a cycle. I remember they name it as nr 1 2 3 &4 prescription. isnt TCM should be adjusted individually cos everyone is different, the Qi and Xue are differ from people to people. so I stopped visiting her after a couple of months. so I just try to eat healthy, rest well and exercise.
Really? My husband and i stopped taking her medicine after a few times cos i feel uncomfortable and my husband has gastric pain after taking the medicine. I told dr zou before but she just say must have a full meal then eat the medicine. Maybe cos i stopped the medicine so she don't like me...
 
Hi ladies.. Anyone here experience 40day cycle and has got BFP for IVF? I am scheduled for my 3rd cycle IVF this month. Was supposed to have my AF on 20 May but sadly it is 10days late... It just came today. Now i am worried whether my IVf will be affected. I cant afford to experience another BFN..
 
Really? My husband and i stopped taking her medicine after a few times cos i feel uncomfortable and my husband has gastric pain after taking the medicine. I told dr zou before but she just say must have a full meal then eat the medicine. Maybe cos i stopped the medicine so she don't like me...
for girls I am quite comfirmed. maybe she has another formula for men. my hubby didn't join me in TCM.
 
Really? My husband and i stopped taking her medicine after a few times cos i feel uncomfortable and my husband has gastric pain after taking the medicine. I told dr zou before but she just say must have a full meal then eat the medicine. Maybe cos i stopped the medicine so she don't like me...
I c her twice... impression super not gd.. she ask abort my previously fet cos my lining not thick.. make me cry in her clinic.. she still can say y u cry? U dun haf to cry.. its not tat u dun haf embryo
 
Hi ladies.. Anyone here experience 40day cycle and has got BFP for IVF? I am scheduled for my 3rd cycle IVF this month. Was supposed to have my AF on 20 May but sadly it is 10days late... It just came today. Now i am worried whether my IVf will be affected. I cant afford to experience another BFN..

My cycles range from 32 to 42 days. Have bfp 3 times in fresh cycles. It shouldn't affect your Ivf cycle because the medications will control the cycle, but what is ur concern?
 
I also went to dr Zou for a while. the first few times are quite good. I chat with her and her husband, daughter in law quite well. then I realize her prescription of TCM are fixed formula according to different weeks of a cycle. I remember they name it as nr 1 2 3 &4 prescription. isnt TCM should be adjusted individually cos everyone is different, the Qi and Xue are differ from people to people. so I stopped visiting her after a couple of months. so I just try to eat healthy, rest well and exercise.

Thanks for this info!
 
My cycles range from 32 to 42 days. Have bfp 3 times in fresh cycles. It shouldn't affect your Ivf cycle because the medications will control the cycle, but what is ur concern?

This is my 3rd cycle. My 1st fresh failed. My 2nd cycle was FET and also failed. Also 40 days cycle. So I am afraid of another failure. And this time round, dunno why it is just spotting and I have never encounter this. Normally it will be full flow on my st day. So not sure do I call the KKH today or wait?
 
Really? My husband and i stopped taking her medicine after a few times cos i feel uncomfortable and my husband has gastric pain after taking the medicine. I told dr zou before but she just say must have a full meal then eat the medicine. Maybe cos i stopped the medicine so she don't like me...
I also stopped taking due to can't afford it.im only doing appucuture for now might start taking it before my fet. My first fresh I stopped my tcm medicine and only go for appucuture
 
This is my 3rd cycle. My 1st fresh failed. My 2nd cycle was FET and also failed. Also 40 days cycle. So I am afraid of another failure. And this time round, dunno why it is just spotting and I have never encounter this. Normally it will be full flow on my st day. So not sure do I call the KKH today or wait?

Hello, late 10 days did u try a pregnancy pee test to see maybe a miracle already happened? :) Hence instead of period it's spotting on first day.

The Feb cycle when I did my first IVF fresh cycle, I was late for 8days - it was a 37day cycle. My dr ordered a pee test to rule out preg cos my period then was strange by 3rd day it was spotting left. I was also worried it would affect ivf, but I had a bfp that cycle. So don't worry, baby dust to u! :)
 
Hi babe, is Dr Zou good? How's your experience with her? Thinking of going to her for acupuncture and TCM med

Hi, I've seen dr Zou for a year for both acupuncture and herbs. My general health improved drastically after seeing her. Finally, I've bfp in Feb IVF cycle complemented with continued accunputure with dr Zou. Her assurance during my IVF was a great help too. I'm currently still seeing her for Ang tai herbs and to take pulse.

My general experience with her has been great - very assuring TCM dr who really know her stuff, esp on IVF. Like most Tcm dr, she might not say too much but if u ask her questions she will always answer them with v clear explanations. Staff working with her are mainly her family members who are all v friendly and nice too. Personally, I would recommend her for fertility TCM or as a complement to IVF. I am most grateful to my Friend (who miraculously conceived under dr Zou after 2 months, despite female factor issues - her bb girl is now 2 years old) for recommending her to me last year.
 
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This is my 3rd cycle. My 1st fresh failed. My 2nd cycle was FET and also failed. Also 40 days cycle. So I am afraid of another failure. And this time round, dunno why it is just spotting and I have never encounter this. Normally it will be full flow on my st day. So not sure do I call the KKH today or wait?
count from the day you did ER and ET instead. that's why kkh's BT is 19 days past ER. by then, menses would usually arrive for failed cycles, however, medication can cause delays. As Lapin suggested, getting a hpt is better to give some clue on the spotting. if u call kkivf, they will also ask u to test hpt.
 
I c her twice... impression super not gd.. she ask abort my previously fet cos my lining not thick.. make me cry in her clinic.. she still can say y u cry? U dun haf to cry.. its not tat u dun haf embryo

Really? My husband and i stopped taking her medicine after a few times cos i feel uncomfortable and my husband has gastric pain after taking the medicine. I told dr zou before but she just say must have a full meal then eat the medicine. Maybe cos i stopped the medicine so she don't like me...

I also went to dr Zou for a while. the first few times are quite good. I chat with her and her husband, daughter in law quite well. then I realize her prescription of TCM are fixed formula according to different weeks of a cycle. I remember they name it as nr 1 2 3 &4 prescription. isnt TCM should be adjusted individually cos everyone is different, the Qi and Xue are differ from people to people. so I stopped visiting her after a couple of months. so I just try to eat healthy, rest well and exercise.

Hi, I've seen dr Zou for a year for both acupuncture and herbs. My general health improved drastically after seeing her. Finally, I've bfp in Feb IVF cycle complemented with continued accunputure with dr Zou. Her assurance during my IVF was a great help too. I'm currently still seeing her for Ang tai herbs and to take pulse.

My general experience with her has been great - very assuring TCM dr who really know her stuff, esp on IVF. Like most Tcm dr, she might not say too much but if u ask her questions she will always answer them with v clear explanations. Staff working with her are mainly her family members who are all v friendly and nice too. Personally, I would recommend her for fertility TCM or as a complement to IVF. I am most grateful to my Friend (who miraculously conceived under dr Zou after 2 months, despite female factor issues - her bb girl is now 2 years old) for recommending her to me last year.

Ladies
I have been with dr zou since 2010. Was on her TCM herbs + acupuncture and BFP after 11 months with her. This is my 2nd BFP with her and this time i just did accuputure with her and she had no issues with this arrangement at all.

To me Dr Zou has very sound ivf and fertility knowledge and she is the type of dr that will not hold on to our hands n do pet talks. But if we ask her for advices she will not hesitate to share her views and she will not sugar coat our conditions.

On her herbs, I believed she has a her golden recipe which works for masses with general fertility issues. At times she will make minor adjustments to her herbs too. But if we expect her tcm to help address to our general health then probably we have the wrong expectations. (Eg : Try to go to our ivf dr to fix our flu)
 
anyone measuring basal temperature after ovulation. My temperature seems high 37.2 to 37.4 and has been staying this range for 6 days. I read that this range basal temperature continues to remain at the level of 37 degrees instead of habitual reduction. In this case one can assume the high probability of the pregnancy. I did my first fresh last month but bfn
 
count from the day you did ER and ET instead. that's why kkh's BT is 19 days past ER. by then, menses would usually arrive for failed cycles, however, medication can cause delays. As Lapin suggested, getting a hpt is better to give some clue on the spotting. if u call kkivf, they will also ask u to test hpt.
Hi, I am very sure it I am not pregnant as my menses is here. My concern now is, it is still not full flow. I went to GP last week and she gave me pills to induce my menses. The menses finally came but not full flow and this is not normal. Do you think I shall proceed with my IVF? Cos I am sure this is the menses.
 
Anyone experience staining for couple of days after taking pills to induce menses? I am kinda worried dunno whether shld I still continue with my IVF this mth. The flow is so much little than normal.
 
Hi, I am very sure it I am not pregnant as my menses is here. My concern now is, it is still not full flow. I went to GP last week and she gave me pills to induce my menses. The menses finally came but not full flow and this is not normal. Do you think I shall proceed with my IVF? Cos I am sure this is the menses.

Hi, usually pills to induce menses is like menses flow but light and short days. There will be no staining. Have u completed the course? 5 days? So today is your menses day 1?

If u are really worried, suggest u should go and consult your GP.
 
Hi, I am very sure it I am not pregnant as my menses is here. My concern now is, it is still not full flow. I went to GP last week and she gave me pills to induce my menses. The menses finally came but not full flow and this is not normal. Do you think I shall proceed with my IVF? Cos I am sure this is the menses.
I see. agree with lovepuff. best to consult your GP or KKIVF. kkivf can do the first scan and advise if can proceed with the ivf cycle.
 
Hi, usually pills to induce menses is like menses flow but light and short days. There will be no staining. Have u completed the course? 5 days? So today is your menses day 1?

If u are really worried, suggest u should go and consult your GP.

I twice induce my menses as it takes forever to come. And it was very light flow and short like you described. Is that normal? I asked my gynae but he didn't give me an absolute answer. Did u have the same situation? Mine started happened on the 2nd cycle after egg retrieval. I'm doing FET.
 
I twice induce my menses as it takes forever to come. And it was very light flow and short like you described. Is that normal? I asked my gynae but he didn't give me an absolute answer. Did u have the same situation? Mine started happened on the 2nd cycle after egg retrieval. I'm doing FET.

After completing the pills, 2-3days later menses will come. Unlike the menses that come naturally.

If your gynae didn't say anything, means it should be ok.

I think Fel C is asking when after thaw, did ur embryos or blastocyst make it for FET? I didnt do FET before so i cant comment much.

When are u going for FET? Good luck!
 


Hi, I went to Dr Zou before and did acupuncture for 6 months but I don't feel any connection with her. I always hear her talking to some patients and explain their conditions to them but Dr Zou seldom talk to me. Only when I asked her like if there is any issue with me, she will just reply me a few words. What I don't like is the queue, even when we made appt already, I still have to wait for a long time. Usually have to spend min. 2 hours in her clinic. I stopped going to her after I failed 2 IUIs cos I want to have a break. So it really depends on individuals.

Sqme here! I went to dr zou for tcm, if you ask her then she answer your question ! I unlike the time management too. Poor planning sometime i waited for 3 hours then acpuncture also need to wait for available bed too. I can understanding how u feel too. Did u take the medicine too?
 
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