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Also at a loss of what to do except try again since there are many others here who have tried many more times too....

Think diet plays a part to improve egg quality so read abt what to eat.

If u have lining issues, drink Longan red date tea daily and eat Brazil nuts/walnuts/egg whites to get selenium.

All general advice since I also dunno why nothing implants on my seemingly perfect triple lining each round. Im also thinking of seeing endocrine specialist as some sisters here suggested to just run tests on organs producing hormones as I suspect I don't ovulate regularly (perhaps due to stress as no issues With drug aid during Ivf cycles).

Hi ladies, I am also same situation. Currently on my 2 ww. But am pondering what to do if this round fails.

I went to tcm after my first failed fresh before I attempt my 2nd round. I also took royal jelly although abut inconsistently. Only thing I didn't give up is my late nights and daily coffee. Didn't do acupuncture cos it scares me. And after 2 fresh I have no frozen at all.

My protocol for both cycles are the same jus higher dosage this time. I ask thh why no change but he said I responded well. :(
 
Also at a loss of what to do except try again since there are many others here who have tried many more times too....

Think diet plays a part to improve egg quality so read abt what to eat.

If u have lining issues, drink Longan red date tea daily and eat Brazil nuts/walnuts/egg whites to get selenium.

All general advice since I also dunno why nothing implants on my seemingly perfect triple lining each round. Im also thinking of seeing endocrine specialist as some sisters here suggested to just run tests on organs producing hormones as I suspect I don't ovulate regularly (perhaps due to stress as no issues With drug aid during Ivf cycles).

Chen did your doc not check if you ovulate normally before starting on ivf?
 
Chen did your doc not check if you ovulate normally before starting on ivf?
From what I've checked with 2 Doctors and 1 tcm, there's no absolute way to diagnose if u do ovulate every mth (even if there's a leading follicle). I have regular periods but when I use opk there are mths without LH surge so the Doctors said I may not have ovulated on some mths. But I don't have pcos so it's very frustrating.
During iui or Ivf cycles, anyway the ovulation is drug induced.
 
Also at a loss of what to do except try again since there are many others here who have tried many more times too....

Think diet plays a part to improve egg quality so read abt what to eat.

If u have lining issues, drink Longan red date tea daily and eat Brazil nuts/walnuts/egg whites to get selenium.

All general advice since I also dunno why nothing implants on my seemingly perfect triple lining each round. Im also thinking of seeing endocrine specialist as some sisters here suggested to just run tests on organs producing hormones as I suspect I don't ovulate regularly (perhaps due to stress as no issues With drug aid during Ivf cycles).

Hi cen, Thank you for the reply. It really helps to know that someone out there knows how it would feel. *hugs*

My lining have no issues as well.

1st fresh: Gonal f 450
Lining was at 10.9 last scan

2nd fresh: Gonal f 375 Menoput 150
Lining was 12.9 last scan

I had such high dosage yet yields only these follicles...

I'm contemplating to have 1 last fresh with KK before moving on to private. My husband was suggesting bkk as he heard it might be cheaper there.. But frankly i would rather do it locally for the support that i will receive.

This is really a long, hard and mentally stress journey. Not to mention if we were to go private, the pocket also will burn a big hole especially for cases like mine which require higher dosage.
 
Hi cen, Thank you for the reply. It really helps to know that someone out there knows how it would feel. *hugs*

My lining have no issues as well.

1st fresh: Gonal f 450
Lining was at 10.9 last scan

2nd fresh: Gonal f 375 Menoput 150
Lining was 12.9 last scan

I had such high dosage yet yields only these follicles...

I'm contemplating to have 1 last fresh with KK before moving on to private. My husband was suggesting bkk as he heard it might be cheaper there.. But frankly i would rather do it locally for the support that i will receive.

This is really a long, hard and mentally stress journey. Not to mention if we were to go private, the pocket also will burn a big hole especially for cases like mine which require higher dosage.
Yup let's press on together! How old are u and ur hubby now? I'm 35 and my hubs alrdy 43....I'm taking it a lot easier after dec's 2nd failed cycle. Last yr I was quite obsessed and reading too much online and I Guess also tired out by Too many hospital visits. Life feels more normal now without regular hospital visits, which is also partly why I feel like I wanna get out of KKH environment personally.
 
Yup let's press on together! How old are u and ur hubby now? I'm 35 and my hubs alrdy 43....I'm taking it a lot easier after dec's 2nd failed cycle. Last yr I was quite obsessed and reading too much online and I Guess also tired out by Too many hospital visits. Life feels more normal now without regular hospital visits, which is also partly why I feel like I wanna get out of KKH environment personally.

I'm 34 and my hubs is 41.

Ya, if not for the grant and Dr Tan, i would have gone private already. The long wait for scans, follow up appointment is terrible.
 
Hi Everyone,

I have been a silent reader for quite sometime.

I have very low AMH, 0.8 and I had 2 fresh cycle under Dr Tan HH. Failed my 2nd fresh in Apr this year.

First cycle:
Retrieved 13 follicles, 3 fertilised, Transfer 2 at Day 3, freeze 1

Second cycle:
Retrieved 12 follicles, 2 fertilised, Transfer 2 at Day 2

Both cycle i did not experience implantation at all and my menses came 2-3 days before my BT. I seriously dont know what is wrong with me, my womb, my body...

These are the things that i am doing as i read that it helps:
- acupuncture
- eat prenatal vitamins
- eat CoQ10 Ubiquinol

Would like to get some advice from anyone who has heard or is in same situation as me :(
If u haven't done so yet maybe u can try womb scratching?
 
If u haven't done so yet maybe u can try womb scratching?

Hi rinapua85, ya will be going for womb scratching if I go for my 3rd fresh. Had wanted to do it for my 2nd fresh but Dr Tan schedule during that period was very packed as he went away for conference etc..

Thanks for the suggestion. How are u doing along on this journey?
 
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first time try their raspberry tea, surpirse was so nice taste
 
From what I've checked with 2 Doctors and 1 tcm, there's no absolute way to diagnose if u do ovulate every mth (even if there's a leading follicle). I have regular periods but when I use opk there are mths without LH surge so the Doctors said I may not have ovulated on some mths. But I don't have pcos so it's very frustrating.
During iui or Ivf cycles, anyway the ovulation is drug induced.

Ic. Which pte doc will u b going to for ur 3rd fresh? Or u will try fet first.
 
Going through my natural FET cycle, having difficulty with my lining. 10th day scan at only 3.2mm. Drank red bean soup, raspberry tea everyday and also did Accupuncture, but lining just growing too slow.

Has anyone experienced this that can help me? Really don't want to cancel this cycle.
 
Going through my natural FET cycle, having difficulty with my lining. 10th day scan at only 3.2mm. Drank red bean soup, raspberry tea everyday and also did Accupuncture, but lining just growing too slow.

Has anyone experienced this that can help me? Really don't want to cancel this cycle.
What yr tcm suggest? Try taking tcm herb and more red bean soup perhaps. Try keep yr womb warm too.
 
Going through my natural FET cycle, having difficulty with my lining. 10th day scan at only 3.2mm. Drank red bean soup, raspberry tea everyday and also did Accupuncture, but lining just growing too slow.

Has anyone experienced this that can help me? Really don't want to cancel this cycle.
Mine medicate Fet.with kkh.thin lining.also proceed with et with 5.8mm as dr in charge wants it when i desirely want to cancel it myself.just gota have faith in dr and god.nuting else..
 
What yr tcm suggest? Try taking tcm herb and more red bean soup perhaps. Try keep yr womb warm too.

Tcm doc ask me to drink her brew twice a day instead of once. Going back for acu alternate days to increase blood flow in womb. She said my womb is cold
 
Mine medicate Fet.with kkh.thin lining.also proceed with et with 5.8mm as dr in charge wants it when i desirely want to cancel it myself.just gota have faith in dr and god.nuting else..

Wow who is your doc and did your embryo implant? I'm with Dr THH, also worried if lining too thin cannot implant
 
Me frm 2 increase to 5 tablets daily morning And max lining is 5.8mm.And proceeded with Et as suggested by dr.thh frm kkh....

While you're on progy, did you also drink pomegranate juice or red bean soup or eat brazil nuts? Were you on progy right after your fresh cycle?
 
Tcm doc ask me to drink her brew twice a day instead of once. Going back for acu alternate days to increase blood flow in womb. She said my womb is cold
Try keep womb warm. Drink longan red date wolfberries drink. I apply aijiu electronic heatpad on tummy too. Today went tcm, she recommend a lady apply aijiu / hot water bag / heat pad on her tummy cause her womb is cold.
 
Today is my first scan... 7.8 triple.. tues scan again..

My first fet start wif 2 tablets den 4 to 5tablets den first scan only 5.5.. so this time thh increase dosage

What was the dosage they gave u this time ard?
Im given 4mg for 5 days then 6mg for 10 days.. my first scan will be on Monday ..
 
Hi ladies, can I ask a few questions? I will be going for my ivf fresh this coming July and would like to maximize the chances of implantation.

1) TCM - I am thinking of going to Dr Zou for acupuncture and meds, any reviews on her?

2) Progesterone Jab - Does KKH offers it? Or we can only go to private doctor after the transfer. Also if we take the jab, do we need to inform KKH?

3) If I take the progesterone jab, is it fine to take the intralipids as well? Will they clash?

4) Other than vitamins, TCM, red dates drink and red bean soup during the 2ww, is there anything else I can do? Or anything I should not take in the 2ww that is mentioned above?

Thank you all in advance!
 
Ic. Which pte doc will u b going to for ur 3rd fresh? Or u will try fet first.
Dr Roland Chieng. He suggests using the last frozen embryo so just hope it will survive the thaw. If it doesn't then fresh again but likely will wait for awhile as need to save up if doing fresh..haha really getting broke as spent a lot on acu and Chinese meds and supplements over the past 2 years.
 
Hi ladies, can I ask a few questions? I will be going for my ivf fresh this coming July and would like to maximize the chances of implantation.

1) TCM - I am thinking of going to Dr Zou for acupuncture and meds, any reviews on her?

2) Progesterone Jab - Does KKH offers it? Or we can only go to private doctor after the transfer. Also if we take the jab, do we need to inform KKH?

3) If I take the progesterone jab, is it fine to take the intralipids as well? Will they clash?

4) Other than vitamins, TCM, red dates drink and red bean soup during the 2ww, is there anything else I can do? Or anything I should not take in the 2ww that is mentioned above?

Thank you all in advance!

For 3, yes it's ok to take both for me. I took them one after another. You can try taking Brazil nuts as it help in implantation.
 
Hi rinapua85, ya will be going for womb scratching if I go for my 3rd fresh. Had wanted to do it for my 2nd fresh but Dr Tan schedule during that period was very packed as he went away for conference etc..

Thanks for the suggestion. How are u doing along on this journey?
I just had miscarriage 3weeks ago, now quite sick of the whole process so attempting to go natural...my case is purely male factor and western doctors (I saw 3) all directed us straight to ivf--icsi or a surgery for hubby...but after the miscarriage when I asked my ivf doctor how the sperms are picked in kkh...She replied that it's based on what the embryologist saw at that point in time..
When I talked to my tcm, he was like..unless your embryologist is someone u know, otherwise who will help u properly pick the best sperm..they just quickly pick a moving sperm and inject it into the egg right..
Quite disappointed cos I started out optimistic with 50 eggs and only ended up with 4 blasts, and used up 3 with no take home baby..actually considering paying the money and going to virtus fertility centre which is well known for their lab...I've been emotionally unstable for almost a year from the continuous western n Chinese medication and I'm gonna stop western med and trying natural for 6 months first then see how again...feeling much better now actually...Not sure if anyone here is also having ivf due to male factor..doesn't seem common..
 
I just had miscarriage 3weeks ago, now quite sick of the whole process so attempting to go natural...my case is purely male factor and western doctors (I saw 3) all directed us straight to ivf--icsi or a surgery for hubby...but after the miscarriage when I asked my ivf doctor how the sperms are picked in kkh...She replied that it's based on what the embryologist saw at that point in time..
When I talked to my tcm, he was like..unless your embryologist is someone u know, otherwise who will help u properly pick the best sperm..they just quickly pick a moving sperm and inject it into the egg right..
Quite disappointed cos I started out optimistic with 50 eggs and only ended up with 4 blasts, and used up 3 with no take home baby..actually considering paying the money and going to virtus fertility centre which is well known for their lab...I've been emotionally unstable for almost a year from the continuous western n Chinese medication and I'm gonna stop western med and trying natural for 6 months first then see how again...feeling much better now actually...Not sure if anyone here is also having ivf due to male factor..doesn't seem common..

Hugs rina. Definitely take time off to rest, recuperate mentally and physically first.
For embryologist, usually icsi used, the sperm would be washed for the better quality sperm to be filtered and used to fertilize the egg.
 
Hugs rina. Definitely take time off to rest, recuperate mentally and physically first.
For embryologist, usually icsi used, the sperm would be washed for the better quality sperm to be filtered and used to fertilize the egg.

Hmm..I'm not sure if they did sperm washing or not, shall try to ask my Dr the next time I see her..yep, I've been resting and feeling happier than I've been in a long time
 
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Hi all, did anyone of you remove both fallopian tubes totally for ivf? Dr advised me to remove both of my damaged tubes which was infected and producing "dirty water", he said its the hydrosulphy (not sure of its spell like that) water that caused my failed first ivf cycle as the dirty water is causing an implantation issue.. i am not sure if i should proceed to remove the tubes as

1. I have already got a daughter age 12, by removing the tubes doesnt mean i will strike BFP for the subsequent ivf, dont know should i be contented with a daughter... i know i shouldnt say this while some of the ladies are still struggling with the first, but i am really in a dilemma

2. If i were to remove the tubes and proceed with ivf, i still have a 30-40% of success based on my age, if i dont remove them, i dont think i will ever get pregnant again naturally since they are v badly damaged...

3. Hubby asked me to proceed with the surgery as he felt that the damaged tubes which are producing dirty water arent doing good for me in the long run, he is more worried if that will affect my health than having a baby, but my concern is more on having a BFP

I am really in a dilemma, not sure if i should remove them... please enlighten me
 
Hi all, did anyone of you remove both fallopian tubes totally for ivf? Dr advised me to remove both of my damaged tubes which was infected and producing "dirty water", he said its the hydrosulphy (not sure of its spell like that) water that caused my failed first ivf cycle as the dirty water is causing an implantation issue.. i am not sure if i should proceed to remove the tubes as

1. I have already got a daughter age 12, by removing the tubes doesnt mean i will strike BFP for the subsequent ivf, dont know should i be contented with a daughter... i know i shouldnt say this while some of the ladies are still struggling with the first, but i am really in a dilemma

2. If i were to remove the tubes and proceed with ivf, i still have a 30-40% of success based on my age, if i dont remove them, i dont think i will ever get pregnant again naturally since they are v badly damaged...

3. Hubby asked me to proceed with the surgery as he felt that the damaged tubes which are producing dirty water arent doing good for me in the long run, he is more worried if that will affect my health than having a baby, but my concern is more on having a BFP

I am really in a dilemma, not sure if i should remove them... please enlighten me

How did the doctor suspect that your tubes are producing 'dirty water'?
 
Hi all, did anyone of you remove both fallopian tubes totally for ivf? Dr advised me to remove both of my damaged tubes which was infected and producing "dirty water", he said its the hydrosulphy (not sure of its spell like that) water that caused my failed first ivf cycle as the dirty water is causing an implantation issue.. i am not sure if i should proceed to remove the tubes as

1. I have already got a daughter age 12, by removing the tubes doesnt mean i will strike BFP for the subsequent ivf, dont know should i be contented with a daughter... i know i shouldnt say this while some of the ladies are still struggling with the first, but i am really in a dilemma

2. If i were to remove the tubes and proceed with ivf, i still have a 30-40% of success based on my age, if i dont remove them, i dont think i will ever get pregnant again naturally since they are v badly damaged...

3. Hubby asked me to proceed with the surgery as he felt that the damaged tubes which are producing dirty water arent doing good for me in the long run, he is more worried if that will affect my health than having a baby, but my concern is more on having a BFP

I am really in a dilemma, not sure if i should remove them... please enlighten me

Get a second opinion?
 
How did the doctor suspect that your tubes are producing 'dirty water'?
I googled and its something called hydrosalpinges... fluids that is formed at the tubes and causing the tubes to be swollen.. woman with this prob has a lower ivf success rates compared to other infertility issues..
Dr suspected because i have swollen tubes and i have watery discharge v frequently.. i did a laparoscopy in 2010 and i showed the dr the picture of the tubes and of cos in 2010, the tubes werent that bad.. the fluid will accumulate... this fluid will cause inplantation issue as its toxic to the embryo and even if BFP, will lead to lower delivery rates!
By removing the tubes, the success rates of ivf is higher from what i read...
 
Hugs rina. Definitely take time off to rest, recuperate mentally and physically first.
For embryologist, usually icsi used, the sperm would be washed for the better quality sperm to be filtered and used to fertilize the egg.
Hi for me also male factor, retrieve 17 eggs. 1 D3 transfer and only left 2 blasto frozen. Could be me also having undected problem. TCM said my progestrone is low cos my period is short
 
Get a second opinion?
I was with Dr Sadhana for my first ivf... i didnt proceed with fresh due to ohss, so i did a fet which was a failure.. she didnt mention this to me...
I am with NUH Dr Chew now and he is so precise and explained so clearly to me on my failed cycle...and why is it that i cannot get pregnant!
I didnt get a second opinion... and dunno if i should as my hubby felt that what Dr Chew said is right from all the symptoms that i have...
 
Hi for me also male factor, retrieve 17 eggs. 1 D3 transfer and only left 2 blasto frozen. Could be me also having undected problem. TCM said my progestrone is low cos my period is short

Which TCM are you with? Dr tan kian Seng seems to b quite well known for male factor..how short is your period?
 
Hi all

For IVF nuh;
What is the follocle size that Prof Wong will decide to do ER ?
During the ER, any preparation need to be done ?
When hubby need to submit the sperm ? (Is it possible to submit 1 day earlier as he will be not in sgp on that day ?)
 
Hi! I am undergoing my second fet and it's my first time at Virtus / MT E, Dr Ann Tan.

Would like to ask if many ladies did acupuncture before and after ET and had bfp?
Am currently doing acupuncture at Thomson Tcm with Chen fang
 
Hi all

For IVF nuh;
What is the follocle size that Prof Wong will decide to do ER ?
During the ER, any preparation need to be done ?
When hubby need to submit the sperm ? (Is it possible to submit 1 day earlier as he will be not in sgp on that day ?)

If husb not ard dan can freeze the sperm. U need to fast frm 12mn the nite bef ER. U will be asked to jab the trigger jabs 2 days bef ER. The nurse will explain wverything to u. Follicle size shld be standard 17mm or so
 


Hi! I am undergoing my second fet and it's my first time at Virtus / MT E, Dr Ann Tan.

Would like to ask if many ladies did acupuncture before and after ET and had bfp?
Am currently doing acupuncture at Thomson Tcm with Chen fang

Oh she's at virtus as well? I didn't see her name in virtus website
 

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