Support group - Miscarriages

Thats gd news all gd in 2 weeks. Very fast recovery. Did gync say when u can try again

She said after my first menses can start trying again. But i duno if i should. I read that we are very fertile after mc. But i also know alot of mc cases after getting pregnant soon after a mc. One part of me cant wait to become pregnant asap. Another part of me is scared.
 


hi everyone. I've not written into this thread before, although occasionally will read the posts.
yesterday, was confirmed our 4th mc under ivf with thh. of course feeling very sad, but this time we were already expecting this outcome for a month as the fetal growth was very slow.
on Saturday I will insert medication to induce mc and start a mini confinement.
I mainly want to ask for advise on what ideas we can do next as we (and I strongly suspect thh also) are at wits end. our history is as follows:
- low sperm count, not suitable for iui
- slight pcos with irregular ovulation
- ivf with thh in kkh history: 3 fresh, 2 fet. bfp 4 times - 1 ectopic, 1 blighted ovum, 1 no heartbeat, and last one with slow growth
- usually ER about 12-16 eggs but after culture to blast, usually left with only 1 - 2 blasts
- done chromosome test, immunology tests - no issues
- tcm with tsb for 2 years

hoping anyone with some suggestions, advise, could help. thanks and jiayou to everyone.

I can imagine your pain though mine are natural pregnancies. I previously had 7pregnacies with only one live birth. Had 4 m (1 BO, 1 ectopic and 2 early Mc) before my live birth.

My immunity tests etc were all normal until my 5th pregnancy. They detected that only when I'm pregnant then I will have sticky blood. Also some anti-body killer cells may not be detected scientifically. That's why i was put on steriods. The other thing is the recurrent miscarriage loss unit in nuh also check things like vit d deficiency etc etc. You may want to see a high risk specialist on this to check what's going on.

I know the journey is tough. But it keeps us going when we desire to have a kid. I wish you all the best!
 
I can imagine your pain though mine are natural pregnancies. I previously had 7pregnacies with only one live birth. Had 4 m (1 BO, 1 ectopic and 2 early Mc) before my live birth.

My immunity tests etc were all normal until my 5th pregnancy. They detected that only when I'm pregnant then I will have sticky blood. Also some anti-body killer cells may not be detected scientifically. That's why i was put on steriods. The other thing is the recurrent miscarriage loss unit in nuh also check things like vit d deficiency etc etc. You may want to see a high risk specialist on this to check what's going on.

I know the journey is tough. But it keeps us going when we desire to have a kid. I wish you all the best!
Wow you are really strong mum.
 
I personally prefer to seem 2nd opinion cos i was pretty much in self denial. And my first gynae wasnt very good so i decided to seek 2nd opinion from another gynae and then proceed to let her do the d&c. I am seeing Dr Wendy Teo. She is very very nice and sympathic and takes very good care about the emtional aspect. I always feel better after talking to her. Fyi, i am not sure about gynae rates but she charges more exp than my first gynae so i reckon her prices might be on a higher side.

However like what daledale mentions, it is still too early to seek 2nd opinion. I first saw my gynae at 8 weeks and only saw a sac that is 6w+. I am not sure about beta level cos i only took hcg blood test so cant advise you on that.

It is normal to cry. Crying will help you release all emotions. Do get your hubbs involved. They defintely dont feel as much compared to us but they are a great strength of emotional support. Dont shut him out. Grieve tgt. It helps. Although ultimately guys recover faster than girls, but at the initial phrase their support is really important.

You are not alone in this. We all have been through it. And are still recovering as well.

Thanks for your sharing and advise ...may i know is Dr Wendy Teo from Mt E?
Im currently seeing someone at TMC. Do u hv any recommendations at TMC? Thanks again
 
hi everyone

just found out i had a missed miscarriage last tuesday morning when doctor couldnt detect the baby's heartbeat. was at my 10th week but baby stopped growing at week 8. baby expelled out naturally the same day at night. i only allow myself to cry till the 2nd day cos i realised that it is not something that can be returned back to me.

am back at work but planning to continue being "in confinement" for a month since the confinement aunty who massaged me said that miscarriage is actually similar to childbirth. it will take around the same time to heal properly.

support system is super important i hope that everyone gets it one way or another. big hugs to all my strong mummies to be. may we all have the chance to have a healthy bundle of joy in our arms one day. <3 <3
 
hi everyone

just found out i had a missed miscarriage last tuesday morning when doctor couldnt detect the baby's heartbeat. was at my 10th week but baby stopped growing at week 8. baby expelled out naturally the same day at night. i only allow myself to cry till the 2nd day cos i realised that it is not something that can be returned back to me.

am back at work but planning to continue being "in confinement" for a month since the confinement aunty who massaged me said that miscarriage is actually similar to childbirth. it will take around the same time to heal properly.

support system is super important i hope that everyone gets it one way or another. big hugs to all my strong mummies to be. may we all have the chance to have a healthy bundle of joy in our arms one day. <3 <3
Sorry to just see your post now. Be strong. *hugs*
 
I can imagine your pain though mine are natural pregnancies. I previously had 7pregnacies with only one live birth. Had 4 m (1 BO, 1 ectopic and 2 early Mc) before my live birth.

My immunity tests etc were all normal until my 5th pregnancy. They detected that only when I'm pregnant then I will have sticky blood. Also some anti-body killer cells may not be detected scientifically. That's why i was put on steriods. The other thing is the recurrent miscarriage loss unit in nuh also check things like vit d deficiency etc etc. You may want to see a high risk specialist on this to check what's going on.

I know the journey is tough. But it keeps us going when we desire to have a kid. I wish you all the best!
thank you! you are stronger than me. :) although there is no particular reason why we couldn't conceive naturally, I had been impatient to try and went straight for ivf. I find trying naturally more stressful than ivf.
it looks like I really need to consult drs choolani or vasoo in order to move forward.
 
hi everyone

just found out i had a missed miscarriage last tuesday morning when doctor couldnt detect the baby's heartbeat. was at my 10th week but baby stopped growing at week 8. baby expelled out naturally the same day at night. i only allow myself to cry till the 2nd day cos i realised that it is not something that can be returned back to me.

am back at work but planning to continue being "in confinement" for a month since the confinement aunty who massaged me said that miscarriage is actually similar to childbirth. it will take around the same time to heal properly.

support system is super important i hope that everyone gets it one way or another. big hugs to all my strong mummies to be. may we all have the chance to have a healthy bundle of joy in our arms one day. <3 <3
hugs. all the best to you too
 
Hugs. All of us wanted the bb so much too but if the baby is not healthy maybe it is better for the baby too. That's how i see it.
Yes there is still some hope so just pray. Don't worry too much, just wait for yr next doc review on coming thur.
that's what I feel too. so sometimes although wanna wish for miracles, but feel it's better to let the bb go.
 
have been reading in this forum since last year, cos in 2016 was my first mc. now just back from gynae to schedule for my 2nd loss dnc this coming thu...gynae say same as last time there is like 1 in 4 pregnancy loss in early stage...just pure bad luck again tis time..no need do any testing no point...1 time i thought ok than now again same.. dunno how i going cope again..dun think i am strong enough to handle this twice. all my frens now with no. 2 already edd all in this yr . they just say take care to me but i dun feel like replying..i guess posting here let me rant a bit i may feel better or i just know ppl here can know better on what i am feeling ..haiz :(
 
Thanks for your sharing and advise ...may i know is Dr Wendy Teo from Mt E?
Im currently seeing someone at TMC. Do u hv any recommendations at TMC? Thanks again
Yes. From mount e novena. My first gynae is from tmc but she sucks so i wont recommend her to you. Other than her, i duno anyone else from tmc. Are u feeling better today?
 
have been reading in this forum since last year, cos in 2016 was my first mc. now just back from gynae to schedule for my 2nd loss dnc this coming thu...gynae say same as last time there is like 1 in 4 pregnancy loss in early stage...just pure bad luck again tis time..no need do any testing no point...1 time i thought ok than now again same.. dunno how i going cope again..dun think i am strong enough to handle this twice. all my frens now with no. 2 already edd all in this yr . they just say take care to me but i dun feel like replying..i guess posting here let me rant a bit i may feel better or i just know ppl here can know better on what i am feeling ..haiz :(
Hugs. Only people who experience the same thing will understand how you feel. Stay strong and positive. We are all here with one aim. To carry our rainbow babies in our arms. Jia you.
 
I am already crying now as I typed. I wanted this bb so much but I can't force if it is not meant to be right?
As much as I think I am mentally prepared, I still harbour a tiny hope and this hope will slowly fade away as the time ticks by.
Sorry that I am so negative now. I really really have no channel to let it off. I do not want to let my hubby know that I am so affected by this.
Hugs. I was also crying when reading all the post thinking of my babies. I want my babies so much but come out to be disappointment twice. My hubby keep telling me babies were sick, should let go of them to release them. They will come back one day as healthy babies. As time goes, I know I life still goes on, though I still miss my babies so much, I need to prepare myself to be healthy for the next pregnancy. There are still hope... Dun give up!
 
have been reading in this forum since last year, cos in 2016 was my first mc. now just back from gynae to schedule for my 2nd loss dnc this coming thu...gynae say same as last time there is like 1 in 4 pregnancy loss in early stage...just pure bad luck again tis time..no need do any testing no point...1 time i thought ok than now again same.. dunno how i going cope again..dun think i am strong enough to handle this twice. all my frens now with no. 2 already edd all in this yr . they just say take care to me but i dun feel like replying..i guess posting here let me rant a bit i may feel better or i just know ppl here can know better on what i am feeling ..haiz :(
Your situation similar to mine ...Doc also said I bad luck... But I went for details check this time. Still wait for report...
 
Hugs. I was also crying when reading all the post thinking of my babies. I want my babies so much but come out to be disappointment twice. My hubby keep telling me babies were sick, should let go of them to release them. They will come back one day as healthy babies. As time goes, I know I life still goes on, though I still miss my babies so much, I need to prepare myself to be healthy for the next pregnancy. There are still hope... Dun give up!
My hubbs also said the same thing as ur hubby. Kept telling me our baby is sick so we need to let him/her go. They will come back as healthy babies. Kept repeating this to me. Zzz. Sometimes guys just dont understand the bond we had with our babies.
 
My hubbs also said the same thing as ur hubby. Kept telling me our baby is sick so we need to let him/her go. They will come back as healthy babies. Kept repeating this to me. Zzz. Sometimes guys just dont understand the bond we had with our babies.

Somehow we ladies blame ourselves no matter the cause because we were holding our babies in our bodies. Hubby don't feel this bond as closely.
 
hi everyone

just found out i had a missed miscarriage last tuesday morning when doctor couldnt detect the baby's heartbeat. was at my 10th week but baby stopped growing at week 8. baby expelled out naturally the same day at night. i only allow myself to cry till the 2nd day cos i realised that it is not something that can be returned back to me.

am back at work but planning to continue being "in confinement" for a month since the confinement aunty who massaged me said that miscarriage is actually similar to childbirth. it will take around the same time to heal properly.

support system is super important i hope that everyone gets it one way or another. big hugs to all my strong mummies to be. may we all have the chance to have a healthy bundle of joy in our arms one day. <3 <3
I did 2 weeks strict confinement then back to work. Continue my dinner confinement food, red date longan tea thou. Just came back from tcm, she say need to bu min 1 month. Started my accupunture twice a week again. =) she also say next ivf cycle higher success rate too. My mil ask me bu as much as i can too. Jiayou ladies.
 
have been reading in this forum since last year, cos in 2016 was my first mc. now just back from gynae to schedule for my 2nd loss dnc this coming thu...gynae say same as last time there is like 1 in 4 pregnancy loss in early stage...just pure bad luck again tis time..no need do any testing no point...1 time i thought ok than now again same.. dunno how i going cope again..dun think i am strong enough to handle this twice. all my frens now with no. 2 already edd all in this yr . they just say take care to me but i dun feel like replying..i guess posting here let me rant a bit i may feel better or i just know ppl here can know better on what i am feeling ..haiz :(
Hugs. Jiayou babe. Try to bu as much as you can and do a proper mini confinement. Our rainbow baby will come soon.
 
My hubbs also said the same thing as ur hubby. Kept telling me our baby is sick so we need to let him/her go. They will come back as healthy babies. Kept repeating this to me. Zzz. Sometimes guys just dont understand the bond we had with our babies.
But my sil uncle who is a shifu told me the same thing. He say my baby body not healthy and gone. It will come back again as healthy baby next time.
 
I did 2 weeks strict confinement then back to work. Continue my dinner confinement food, red date longan tea thou. Just came back from tcm, she say need to bu min 1 month. Started my accupunture twice a week again. =) she also say next ivf cycle higher success rate too. My mil ask me bu as much as i can too. Jiayou ladies.
I only eat 2 weeks confinement food and resume my usual food already. Also stopped my red date longan tea at 3rd week. Maybe i should continue drinking.
 
Yeah. Till now i still think i am the one who failed to save and protect my baby.
Went to see tcm just now she told me nothing can be done actually. When she aware my baby heartbeat slow she already think at risk of mc. She say likely is the embryo not healthy. So don't blame ourselves bah. Hao hao bu yi bu and move forward. Jia you.
 
I did 2 weeks strict confinement then back to work. Continue my dinner confinement food, red date longan tea thou. Just came back from tcm, she say need to bu min 1 month. Started my accupunture twice a week again. =) she also say next ivf cycle higher success rate too. My mil ask me bu as much as i can too. Jiayou ladies.

Hi daledale, what food u take to bu?
 
Hi daledale, what food u take to bu?
I bought herbal pack from ztp brew herbal soup every alt day (ba zhen, shi quan, ginseng chicken soup etc). But only i drinking herbal soup so i used 1/2 or 1/3 pack to brew 1 big bowl. Also drinking yang ming jiu (can be dom) and mil self made red wine. Still cont my confinement dinner (cook with sesame oil, ginger, pepper, rice wine). And drink the red date longan tea daily. No cooling food and cold food & drinks. For 2 weekend took vinger pork.

ZTP / Hock Hua Herbal Soup Pack
http://hockhuaestore.com.sg/web/Products.aspx?key=soup
 
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I bought herbal pack from ztp brew herbal soup every alt day (ba zhen, shi quan, ginseng chicken soup etc). But only i drinking herbal soup so i used 1/2 or 1/3 pack to brew 1 big bowl. Also drinking yang ming jiu (can be dom) and mil self made red wine. Still cont my confinement dinner (cook with sesame oil, ginger, pepper, rice wine). And drink the red date longan tea daily. No cooling food and cold food & drinks. For 2 weekend took vinger pork.

Very intensive.

Do u take any tcm herbs too?
 
Very intensive.

Do u take any tcm herbs too?

I didnt took herb cause i dont like the taste. I took capsule, tcm just resume yesterday ( 3 weeks after d&c). Was cordyceps & maca cordyceps capsule from tcm thou. I also bought cordyceps cordyceps capsule from nature farm too.
 
thank you! you are stronger than me. :) although there is no particular reason why we couldn't conceive naturally, I had been impatient to try and went straight for ivf. I find trying naturally more stressful than ivf.
it looks like I really need to consult drs choolani or vasoo in order to move forward.

Nah I'm not stronger than u. I still miss all my angels. But I am managing very well now emotionally. Anyhow I was impatient too. They told me ivf has higher chances for Mc compared to natural. Not sure how true, therefore dr choolani told me to it even try ivf. He says since I have no issues conceiving naturally then go natural, Esp since I had ectopic. But if need be then he will ask me go for ivf. I only seen nuh recurrent loss unit after my 3rd mc - ectopic.

Good luck.
 
I just took my CVS report, confirmed my baby has Turner syndrome. Doc said is a random issue which can't be prevent. Though already MC, I still worry the recurrence to my next pregnancy since this is already the recurrence for me as 1st MC also due to similar issue. But doc keep telling me a random problem, not related to any parent issue. Any mommy have similar experience n has success story?
 
Btw went those chinese medical shop bought some 补 since tcm ask me 补 min 1 month.

1) 当归 - 补can steam chicken or add to soup
2) 党参 - 补气 can soak with red date / add to soup
3) Brown Sugar - Gd for womb and 补血

Top up my red dates too. Quite cheap. Total cost me $14 for 1 big bag of stuff. =)
 
I'm glad they did. Nuh recurrent loss unit is so packed. Let's hope this set up can help more women in need.

Yeah. I was also a bit relieved not to hv to switch to nuh or see dr choolani or vasoo in private clinic. But I'm not sure how experienced dr Liu is. Feel like guinea pig.
 
Ztp chicken essence with cordecepy on promo. 1 box appx $10.75 after 20+20 discount. Ztp herbal soup pack also 20% + 20%. The shop recommend bazhen ($2.88 after discount) & shiquan to nourish blood & qi.
 
I believe for nuh and kkh shd be similar. Go to Polyclinic to get a referral letter. For nuh recurrent loss unit. They are getting more stringent I heard. They will see anyone with 3 or more losses for their recurrent loss unit. Last time 2 they will see too, but might not be seen by the high risk drs.
 
Dear sisters. Need some moral support here. Tested positive last Thursday after IVF FET. It was 13dp3dt with beta 219. Before that, there was intermittent spotting a few days before, so I brought forward BT from sat to thurs and extended HL.
Just last night and today, I inserted utrogestran and saw some brown stains so I just went down to take a jab again. They can't bring forward the antenatal scan nor repeat blood test to check hcg.
Now feel torturous having to wait till next tues for scan. I have no other syntoymn except sore boob and tight abdomen which I hasn't felt any incremental differences over past few days.
Can't help feeling worried as I had blighted ovum..I can't take the bad news again.
 
Dear sisters. Need some moral support here. Tested positive last Thursday after IVF FET. It was 13dp3dt with beta 219. Before that, there was intermittent spotting a few days before, so I brought forward BT from sat to thurs and extended HL.
Just last night and today, I inserted utrogestran and saw some brown stains so I just went down to take a jab again. They can't bring forward the antenatal scan nor repeat blood test to check hcg.
Now feel torturous having to wait till next tues for scan. I have no other syntoymn except sore boob and tight abdomen which I hasn't felt any incremental differences over past few days.
Can't help feeling worried as I had blighted ovum..I can't take the bad news again.
hugs. try to think positive thoughts and talk to your little one. encourage it to grow. nothing you can do will change things now. congrats on your bfp and all the best!
 
Dear sisters. Need some moral support here. Tested positive last Thursday after IVF FET. It was 13dp3dt with beta 219. Before that, there was intermittent spotting a few days before, so I brought forward BT from sat to thurs and extended HL.
Just last night and today, I inserted utrogestran and saw some brown stains so I just went down to take a jab again. They can't bring forward the antenatal scan nor repeat blood test to check hcg.
Now feel torturous having to wait till next tues for scan. I have no other syntoymn except sore boob and tight abdomen which I hasn't felt any incremental differences over past few days.
Can't help feeling worried as I had blighted ovum..I can't take the bad news again.

Spotting doesn't necessary lead to miscarriage. So don't be stress first.
Bed rest more and rest well. Take care.

Congrats on yr bfp. Take care don't carry heavy weight. If spotting still then bed rest more.
 
hugs. try to think positive thoughts and talk to your little one. encourage it to grow. nothing you can do will change things now. congrats on your bfp and all the best!

Thanks sister. I have been talking to embie for past three weeks, and actually the more I talk the more I become emotionally attached to it.. finally my last embryos yielded BFP, after two failed cycles, yet this journey ahead is still so uncertain.
you take care too, hope you have rested well and will find your next course of action soon.
 
Spotting doesn't necessary lead to miscarriage. So don't be stress first.
Bed rest more and rest well. Take care.

Congrats on yr bfp. Take care don't carry heavy weight. If spotting still then bed rest more.

thanks sister. took HL, minimize movement, did not go out except to get my lunch. today alarmed to see slight brownish stain. Now bed rest.
Trying not to stress but this reminded me of my last blighted ovum ordeal where I had spotting too then doctor say it's not viable anymore. Struggling to keep sane for now and will stretch till next few weeks I guess.
Hope you are feeling better now.
 
thanks sister. took HL, minimize movement, did not go out except to get my lunch. today alarmed to see slight brownish stain. Now bed rest.
Trying not to stress but this reminded me of my last blighted ovum ordeal where I had spotting too then doctor say it's not viable anymore. Struggling to keep sane for now and will stretch till next few weeks I guess.
Hope you are feeling better now.
Did gync gave u support jab? Spotting is not uncommon so if you already did yr jab and eat yr support meds the rest beyond us. Just bed rest, watch drama and enjoy yr hl.

Thanx feeling much better. Going for my review later. =)
 
Did gync gave u support jab? Spotting is not uncommon so if you already did yr jab and eat yr support meds the rest beyond us. Just bed rest, watch drama and enjoy yr hl.

Thanx feeling much better. Going for my review later. =)

Yah I took a progesterone Jab after BT and today. Hence concerned when spotting appeared again today. Hope your review goes well!
 
Just ask me to take 3 dose of med after review with Gynae to ensure everything ok.
Then you follow first. When yr gync review?

Did my review with gync. First question he ask is it still bleeding. No then he say gd. He say no need scan all is gd. But eventually he decided to scan to check the ovaries & amh. Book my next ivf fresh cycle. In the mean time try naturally with Letrozole. Jiayou ladies.
 



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