Any private investigator to recommended?

hi maggie-sg,
like you, i hate people who talk big but has no real capabilities. these people who boast are out to cheat. you may have successfully found the right PI to help your sisters, but you and your sisters were conned too. so its 1-1 score. that means you are also not qualified enough to boast your experience.
you mention that you paid a higher price to get things right, i suppose you are telling us that to choose a good PI, choose the one that quote you higher? i would suppose that the cost you paid is the cost of the job, not a standard gauge on the capability of the PI, wrong? you mention that the advice your PU gave you is unheard of, maybe you are ignorant of many happenings and things thats why you can be pleasantly surprise. what your PI advise you coukd be everyday stuffs to others? further, your sisters case could also be very simple and direct, which again does not support your claim as hoe fantastic your PI is.
i am glad you found the right PI for your sisters, but in my opinion, they are just another PI doing his work. he is no difference from many other professional PI who delivers.
you also mention there are less than ten PI agencies doing real PI work. may i ask you to name us the ten agencies. are you also very sure that those that you did not mention in your reply dont do real PI work? be very careful of your reply, it could means defamation.
the only thing you mention correctly is that there are many PI around who does not know actual PI work. i have to agree with you that some even cheat under their big names. please be very careful when you are choosing a PI.
btw, reading your post gave me the feeling that you are like those you mention you hate. sorry, i maybe wrong, but its a feeling. care to reply?
 


Wendy Ho said:
hi maggie-sg,
like you, i hate people who talk big but has no real capabilities. these people who boast are out to cheat. you may have successfully found the right PI to help your sisters, but you and your sisters were conned too. so its 1-1 score. that means you are also not qualified enough to boast your experience.
you mention that you paid a higher price to get things right, i suppose you are telling us that to choose a good PI, choose the one that quote you higher? i would suppose that the cost you paid is the cost of the job, not a standard gauge on the capability of the PI, wrong? you mention that the advice your PU gave you is unheard of, maybe you are ignorant of many happenings and things thats why you can be pleasantly surprise. what your PI advise you coukd be everyday stuffs to others? further, your sisters case could also be very simple and direct, which again does not support your claim as hoe fantastic your PI is.
i am glad you found the right PI for your sisters, but in my opinion, they are just another PI doing his work. he is no difference from many other professional PI who delivers.
you also mention there are less than ten PI agencies doing real PI work. may i ask you to name us the ten agencies. are you also very sure that those that you did not mention in your reply dont do real PI work? be very careful of your reply, it could means defamation.
the only thing you mention correctly is that there are many PI around who does not know actual PI work. i have to agree with you that some even cheat under their big names. please be very careful when you are choosing a PI.
btw, reading your post gave me the feeling that you are like those you mention you hate. sorry, i maybe wrong, but its a feeling. care to reply?
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Ms Wendy, appreciate your response. I don't think there is any element of defamation by saying that PI is not their core business. I mentioned that we have contacted several PI agencies, met or spoke to them and shortlisted two but my sister decided to engage one of them who charge cheaper. Your so called "experience" would derive from my research and interview with them.

I would think there is no two similar betrayal and divorce case. I don't know whether my sister's case was simple or complex I don't wish to elaborate her case. But the entire case was settled after almost 16 months. A member mention on photos.. yes. I remembered the PI report was more than 80 pages and 200 photos.

My posting simply sharing my experience. I.am not here to promote for them as I have never mention any name or agency of the PI my sister engaged.

This would be my last response.
 
80 pages? 200 photos. For 16 months and u say they are good n professional. It must uave cost a bomb. I don't think a normal divorce case have to do that long.
 
desparate_wife said:
80 pages? 200 photos. For 16 months and u say they are good n professional. It must uave cost a bomb. I don't think a normal divorce case have to do that long.
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Please read carefully, the divorce case took 16 months to settle not the PI work. The PI took about 5 to 6 days to do the work.
 
hi maggie-sg,
you mention that there are only about ten PI agencies who are doing real PI work, didnt you? you did interview some and how about the rest? you maybe trying to share your experience but your context is really misleading. perhaps you would like to help us re-phrase so that we can understand what is your point in sharing your experience.
 
From what I read, I also thought the Private Investigator took 16months. Anyway, if evidence is so good why takes so long?

I also went hunting for Private Investigator, but I only manage settle at the 2nd one I talk to, imagine to talk 10 Private investigation agencies? So many Private Investigator knows about the case, its so risky.

The Private Investigator I hired, give me a report around 10 pages, and it was very direct, highlighting the important event. Imagine a 80 pages report? Is it really needed?
 
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Its not I didn't read properly, but really its misleading.
Anyway, you are right la. We shouldn't be looking for cheapest PI, as too low price, they might not be able to deliver.
 
I just wonder 80page report ...do u think the judge hv that time to read 80pages instead of Affidivates ...which is more important if u r judge?
 
U are right. The judge is not interested in the daily activities report.
They will see the findings, whether adultery or unreasonable behaviour
 
Hi new_pi

Thks u PM me ...but do u know PI freelancing is illegal and can be fine or both jail n fine ...do not mean to pour wet blanket ..suggest u take a PI course n get a licence.
 
margret said:
hi all, just to share. I have used two PI b4. The 1st one i find from the strait times, a indian PI, before engagemnet they promised me many things, but didn't deliver what they promised.

Lucky, one of the mummy here introduce a PI she use before. The second one there were vast differences, they told me things they can and can't do. They only get me those things which can be used in court.

If any of u want the PI contacts, can email me
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Can pm me the PI contact?
 
margret said:
hi all, just to share. I have used two PI b4. The 1st one i find from the strait times, a indian PI, before engagemnet they promised me many things, but didn't deliver what they promised.

Lucky, one of the mummy here introduce a PI she use before. The second one there were vast differences, they told me things they can and can't do. They only get me those things which can be used in court.

If any of u want the PI contacts, can email me
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Hi margert, can PM me the PI contact? Thanks so much.
 
Hmmm...what is the purpose of PI? Make him go on his knees n beg? Will it happen? Or file for Div ? Can u sleep after u have seen ? PI can't give u bed room pictures ...they will tell u that ...so am.puzzle ...
How much have u made Margaret ? $5k for just 2 days is very very very expensive and yet no unit or floor or bed room pic? How much u made? Are u really a Margaret?

Ladies...ur submission of pic of them together are not going anywhere ... court will grant u div ...court dun care if u have pic or no pic because their objective is to move the case asap to closure.

So my 5cents worth..think over is the $worth spending or ..keep for yr kids n yourself.
 
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Hi ladies, happy CNY. I'm new in this forum.

I have a problem with an ex-BF and would like to have some advice if possible.
A year ago I got together with this guy and 6 months later I found that he had cheated on me with another common lady friend, Ms M. I spoke to him about it, and even told him that in a nice calm way, if he was really in love with the other lady, I would give him my blessings and would back out. But he didn't want to break-up then. Then a series of not-so-fortunate things happened to him, and all these while I was supporting him (financially as well as emotionally. And he was still introducing me as his girlfriend during his grandma's wake.) Then one day I happened to know that he was still with Ms M. And very coincidentally, I met her at a public event and had a talk on this. She denied at first, but when she knew that me and the ex had spent the previous night together, she flew into a calm rage and cut all communications with him (as what she said). The ex also sent me some nasty texts to 'threaten' me (because I have a picture of them in some compromising position.) I've also cut him off completely since.

The lady requested me not to show or publicise the pictures, because their affair was an 'underground' one. I agreed. I told her, I would deactivate my Facebook account too and cut off social media. Because of my silence, People thinks that I'm weak and guilty because I'm the 'psychotic paranoid possessive girlfriend' who pounced on other lady who comes near her man. So I have been 'eating the dead cat'...

I was a total wreck and plunged into depression. Got myself professional help and I'm on my way to making a full recovery. And yes those medicine and consultation are very expensive.

Recently, after encouragement from my very supportive girlfriends, I reactivated my Facebook. But guess what, that lovely ex of mine had been attacking me since. Also telling people untruthful things about me (I confronted... I accused him... etc) and the latest was, he posted in his Facebook (which he blocked me from) to be wary of me (my nick at least) and do not add me should I send them a friend request. Haiz.

Recently his ex-wife (who has become my good friend now after the saga), just told me that he's into another 'underground' relationship. BTW, he cheated on her at least 5 times during his 5-year marriage. (This guy is a scorer!)

I was thinking, as an attempt to keep him busy with other things, should I hire a PI, get some 'nice' pictures of him and her new 'underground' love and keep them. They will come in handy some time.

Hmm.. Appreciate some advice.. :) Thanks ladies.
 
gladjo said:
Hmmm...what is the purpose of PI? Make him go on his knees n beg? Will it happen? Or file for Div ? Can u sleep after u have seen ? PI can't give u bed room pictures ...they will tell u that ...so am.puzzle ...
How much have u made Margaret ? $5k for just 2 days is very very very expensive and yet no unit or floor or bed room pic? How much u made? Are u really a Margaret?

Ladies...ur submission of pic of them together are not going anywhere ... court will grant u div ...court dun care if u have pic or no pic because their objective is to move the case asap to closure.

So my 5cents worth..think over is the $worth spending or ..keep for yr kids n yourself.
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Which tree u barking on?
Have I antagonise you in some way?
Or are u just jealous people asking for my Private Investigator contact instead of you?
I see u are going around recommending Private Investigator also and also recommending lawyers. How much u earning my dear?
 
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MdmPapi said:
Hi ladies, happy CNY. I'm new in this forum.
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I have a problem with an ex-BF and would like to have some advice if possible.
A year ago I got together with this guy and 6 months later I found that he had cheated on me with another common lady friend, Ms M. I spoke to him about it, and even told him that in a nice calm way, if he was really in love with the other lady, I would give him my blessings and would back out. But he didn't want to break-up then. Then a series of not-so-fortunate things happened to him, and all these while I was supporting him (financially as well as emotionally. And he was still introducing me as his girlfriend during his grandma's wake.) Then one day I happened to know that he was still with Ms M. And very coincidentally, I met her at a public event and had a talk on this. She denied at first, but when she knew that me and the ex had spent the previous night together, she flew into a calm rage and cut all communications with him (as what she said). The ex also sent me some nasty texts to 'threaten' me (because I have a picture of them in some compromising position.) I've also cut him off completely since.

The lady requested me not to show or publicise the pictures, because their affair was an 'underground' one. I agreed. I told her, I would deactivate my Facebook account too and cut off social media. Because of my silence, People thinks that I'm weak and guilty because I'm the 'psychotic paranoid possessive girlfriend' who pounced on other lady who comes near her man. So I have been 'eating the dead cat'...

I was a total wreck and plunged into depression. Got myself professional help and I'm on my way to making a full recovery. And yes those medicine and consultation are very expensive.

Recently, after encouragement from my very supportive girlfriends, I reactivated my Facebook. But guess what, that lovely ex of mine had been attacking me since. Also telling people untruthful things about me (I confronted... I accused him... etc) and the latest was, he posted in his Facebook (which he blocked me from) to be wary of me (my nick at least) and do not add me should I send them a friend request. Haiz.

Recently his ex-wife (who has become my good friend now after the saga), just told me that he's into another 'underground' relationship. BTW, he cheated on her at least 5 times during his 5-year marriage. (This guy is a scorer!)

I was thinking, as an attempt to keep him busy with other things, should I hire a PI, get some 'nice' pictures of him and her new 'underground' love and keep them. They will come in handy some time.

Hmm.. Appreciate some advice.. :) Thanks ladies.
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I feel you should just let it go.
don't waste time and money on this kind of person
 
gladjo said:
Hmmm...what is the purpose of PI? Make him go on his knees n beg? Will it happen? Or file for Div ? Can u sleep after u have seen ? PI can't give u bed room pictures ...they will tell u that ...so am.puzzle ...
How much have u made Margaret ? $5k for just 2 days is very very very expensive and yet no unit or floor or bed room pic? How much u made? Are u really a Margaret?

Ladies...ur submission of pic of them together are not going anywhere ... court will grant u div ...court dun care if u have pic or no pic because their objective is to move the case asap to closure.

So my 5cents worth..think over is the $worth spending or ..keep for yr kids n yourself.
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I just wondering why u say so the court is not looking for pictures or evidence for divorce have u really gone thru or just using your 5 cents worth of thought.

I have file divorce base on unreasonable behaviour. My PI took picture of intimate of my ex with 3rd party. it was present in court. the court granted a divorce. u mean all this is useless???? hahaha, u let people who hired sound so stupid, wasting time and money.

I didn't know court just granted divorce easily. u really smart, I think u can become a divorce specialist, and all the lawyers have to close shop. the judge also can shake leg do nothing.

anyway, you are complaining everywhere in the forum, PI and lawyers are all useless. But u are recommending your own PI AND LAWYER. So yours the best, the rest all cannot make it. u are sure making a lot of $$$$
 
Whatever..... you have so much $ to throw and you rather believe a lie than truth just because the truth hurts ego and pride.

Ultimately the court will just ask you, your marriage is to divorce under grounds of Adultery or Unreasonavle Behaviour
..which both reasons are just reason and after that the judge will push for proposal to close asap. Doesn't mean you get extra plus credits or merit points when you had proven adultery ....nope nothing. Because after the legal marriage is sign off by judge divorce..thats when the real fight for kids,house and alimony starts.

I didnt say am smart ...i merely state truth ... whatever...u hv $$ ... u can afford .. all the best. If you can't take truth..please than dun put words into others mouth. I merely earlier curiosity ask as i was really curious ..i didn't expect so defensive out burst unless ... hmm ... any cheer. . All the best. Cheers
 
No one have money to throw.
So what u say is truth. Other all lies?

Really joke of the year. U can just tell judge u wan to divorce based on adultery or unreasonable behaviour without any evidence.

U are not asking, u are accusing. Anyway I feel u are naive. I personally went thru divorce, but from what u say, I really doubtbu went thru, not sure your motive here.
 
Whatever u say ...siang ... if u think moon is blue so be it ....always must win ... let u win lo.. ...
 
Its not about wining. But I stand by my believe. I am defending myself. Its about integrity.
Pls stop going around accusing people! !!!
 
margret said:
Its not about wining. But I stand by my believe. I am defending myself. Its about integrity.
Pls stop going around accusing people! !!!
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As usual la. She is going around the forum, telling how expert she is handling the lawyer n judge without spending money. She is the you know all expert in divorce in Singapore, only her words is the truth.
I seriously feel she hv some hidden agenda.
 
margret said:
No one have money to throw.
So what u say is truth. Other all lies?

Really joke of the year. U can just tell judge u wan to divorce based on adultery or unreasonable behaviour without any evidence.

U are not asking, u are accusing. Anyway I feel u are naive. I personally went thru divorce, but from what u say, I really doubtbu went thru, not sure your motive here.
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Hi Margret,

Can you PM me the PI contact and cost. I need it urgently. Thanks
 
anyone tried to complaint PI to Case ? or where to complaint ? I paid this PI a total of $9k, because my husband also travel so I thought reasonable as they need to follow him through but the result they gave me was so disappointing. It's been 2months now and I only receive a few pictures and no reports at all, just itinerary of what they had done. And the pictures which doesn't show any adultery. My lawyer say try not to embarrassed him in court and I think wasted money.

Anyone have any idea where to complaint? I want compensation.
 
ally420 said:
anyone tried to complaint PI to Case ? or where to complaint ? I paid this PI a total of $9k, because my husband also travel so I thought reasonable as they need to follow him through but the result they gave me was so disappointing. It's been 2months now and I only receive a few pictures and no reports at all, just itinerary of what they had done. And the pictures which doesn't show any adultery. My lawyer say try not to embarrassed him in court and I think wasted money.

Anyone have any idea where to complaint? I want compensation.
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Maybe u wan to share which company?

I feel if its a professional PI agency, they would have explain wat they could do for you n get for u.

If u hv picture of them, why not use it against him in court. When go court, send in the photo as evidence, why afraid to disgrace him, since he himself misbehaved.
 
Anyway for adultery doesn't mean u have to take pictures of them in bed. If pi managed to get the room number, and photo of them going into hotel n witnesses them going to the room. This is enough.

My PI got me that, and my lawyer used it successfully to file for divorce
 
gladjo, please PM your PI. I asked 3 PI and was quote between $3500 to $5000 for 5 days job. I'mm a stay home mum , please help me. sad :(
 
Hi Janey

My first CFRC is next week and I would like to know the difference between Unreasonable behavoiur and Adultery. I understand the meaning...what I mean is how does it affect my divorce. My husband is senior management and highly paid so am thinking of contesting but heard it's a lot of money. sigh...please help
 
my lawyer told me last time, when u file based on unreasonable behaviour, ie coming home late frequently, picking up fights, chances of your spouse countering is very high, as he knows u don't have prove to all this. He will come up with another set of unreasonable behaviour against u, and putting the blame on you on the breakdown of marriage. Then u will counter him. This will go on and on. As all this are words against words.
if u have evidence then at least clear the first step to proceed on asset and custody
 
janey09

Can i get alimony once i proven his adultery ? He just file me a divorce writ and I had previously engaged a PI and have evidence of his adultery. Do you think I can get full custody of my kids ? I'm so lost...my lawyer is so quite and everytime i called him, his secretary always say he's in court.

Gladjo

Understand you have some lawyer friends, can PM me a good lawyer?
 
Plastic surgeon fined $13,000 for computer misuse
Source
Straits Times
Date
15 Feb 2017
Author
Elena Chong

Suspecting wife had affair, he intercepted her data, accessed SGH system unlawfully

A plastic surgeon was fined a total of $13,000 on Monday for installing a spyware program on his laptop to intercept data belonging to his then wife, and unlawfully accessing data in the Singapore General Hospital's (SGH) computer system.

Leo Kah Woon, 42, was with SGH when he committed three offences, including accessing the hospital's computer system to search for information on his wife's alleged lover, Mr Ang Choo Pin, 38, in 2012.

Leo and Ms Nellie Tan Li Khoon, 39, who have two children, have since divorced. Ms Tan was recently fined $3,500 for abetting a private investigator to unlawfully access Leo's Asus laptop on Dec 18, 2012. The court heard that Leo evicted his wife from their matrimonial home in September 2012 after he suspected her of having an affair.

Leo had installed a keylogging software in his MacBook Pro computer shared with his wife to capture the keystrokes and take periodic screenshots when she used the computer, and sent the information to his e-mail account.

Using the software, he intercepted without authority the functions of the laptop relating to his wife's communications. She became upset when he alluded to private information from her e-mails and chats on several occasions. He had used the information for their divorce proceedings in the Family Court.

Ms Tan's suspicions about the interception were confirmed when she sent the laptop to be checked.

Relating the facts of the unauthorised access to the SGH system, Deputy Public Prosecutor April Phang said sometime in September 2012, Leo suspected Mr Ang was having an affair with his wife.

Leo found out more about Mr Ang's wife, identifying her as Ms Xu. He got her contact details from the SGH system, and passed her mobile number to his sister. He told his sister to call Ms Xu and claim they had photographic evidence from a private eye and SMS evidence that Mr Ang had an affair.

Ms Xu came to know about her husband's infidelity from that call.

Mr Ang subsequently lodged complaints with the Singapore Medical Council (SMC) and the police that Leo had abused the SGH system to obtain personal information, and made baseless allegations of adultery against him in an effort to destroy his marriage. The SMC complaints committee concluded that no formal inquiry was necessary and issued a letter of advice to Leo.

Leo, represented by Mr Wendell Wong, could have been fined up to $10,000 and/or jailed for up to three years for intercepting communications from Ms Tan's laptop by using the keylogger software.

The maximum penalty for unlawful access to data in the computer system is a $5,000 fine and two years' jail.

Leo had installed a keylogging software in his MacBook Pro computer shared with his wife to capture the keystrokes and take periodic screenshots when she used the computer, and sent the information to his e-mail account. Using the software, he intercepted without authority the functions of the laptop relating to his wife's communications.
 
Hi Janey09

My husband had file divorce and I'm not sure what to do. I have 3 young kids, age 3,7 & 10 and am not working as I have to look after them. I have gotten pictures of his adultery but am concern about finance and he pays everything. I want full custody of my kids because he never even bother to help them with homework. Can I get finance from him once the judge sees the pictures ? And give me custody of my kids? I need more finance as schooling is getting more expensive so will the judge after seeing the pictures ? I'm so stress and I really don't know what to do.
 
Gladjo, do you have a reliable PI ? I checked a few and wah....so expensive and worst go by hour.

Margaret, pls PM me your PI. Is he reliable ? Does he charge by per hour ?
 
moonlilly said:
Hi Janey09

My husband had file divorce and I'm not sure what to do. I have 3 young kids, age 3,7 & 10 and am not working as I have to look after them. I have gotten pictures of his adultery but am concern about finance and he pays everything. I want full custody of my kids because he never even bother to help them with homework. Can I get finance from him once the judge sees the pictures ? And give me custody of my kids? I need more finance as schooling is getting more expensive so will the judge after seeing the pictures ? I'm so stress and I really don't know what to do.
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How u got pictures of his adultery?
Since he filed divorce, then wat kind of term he stated in term of custody, care n control, division of assest n maintenance?
Have u received the letter from his lawyer?
 

He says he will file me Unreasonable Behaviour...I'm so angry...I sacrifice so much and am unreasonable.

What about Finance ? will the judge make him pay me more after seeing his adultery pictures ? I really need to know this.
 
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