Hi Daledale
very heartbreaking cause it was my 3rd mc.So sorry to hear that....I saw on subsequent posts that u mentioned carrying your niece? Don't dwell over that...gotta strengthen ourselves and be physically and emotionally healthy for the next potential round
Did the doctor investigate why miscarriage 3 times?My last mc also same timing. No bleeding though. the heartbeat just stopped by the next scan.
So sorry to hear that....I saw on subsequent posts that u mentioned carrying your niece? Don't dwell over that...gotta strengthen ourselves and be physically and emotionally healthy for the next potential round
Yep, I'm much better now. Had my natural miscarriage and doctor checked and confirmed all cleared...super Sian esp when I just returned to office after my MC and well meaning colleagues asked if I'm pregnant cos my MC says kkh....I just ended up bursting into tears uncontrollably..
I saw online that many women got pregnant and successfully kept their baby till full term after miscarrying previously so 加油 加油!!!!!
My last mc also same timing. No bleeding though. the heartbeat just stopped by the next scan.
So sorry to hear that....I saw on subsequent posts that u mentioned carrying your niece? Don't dwell over that...gotta strengthen ourselves and be physically and emotionally healthy for the next potential round
Yep, I'm much better now. Had my natural miscarriage and doctor checked and confirmed all cleared...super Sian esp when I just returned to office after my MC and well meaning colleagues asked if I'm pregnant cos my MC says kkh....I just ended up bursting into tears uncontrollably..
I saw online that many women got pregnant and successfully kept their baby till full term after miscarrying previously so 加油 加油!!!!!
Hello daledale , hello Fel C and hello imkfanatic
Welcome gd_luck_come , hello all
So many good sisters and listeners here, really grateful to come back to this forum and having you all.
First of all - big thank you to daledale for the mini confinement menu - I can't read Chinese but I will forward my Mum to translate for me
Fel C and all , sharing my update since my bleeding...
Saturday, the first bleeding was mixed with the pill - hence faint pink, the later night one was red n some blood clod here n there ; I knew it's over . Next day , almost like full flow of menses , and I am still having menses by now , which is the longest I ever had since 3 years now . I had problem with short period and Long spotting each cycle . So my gf said it's good to reboot and "refresh" the womb.
I called kkh on Monday before I go in directly . On the phone they said "come and bring the blood test letter"; and we will give you a new slot to see doc. I followed what they said obediently n lucky I asked - which number of q do I press ? She said no.3
I waited a while - I go to room no1 where I went once to learn how to jab and probably it's the ad hoc request room! The nurse was surprised on adhoc updates and request - being a mass patient in KKH - we really need to be equipped with as much knowledge ourselves and know what to ask n do next ! She's totally blur (the nurse); went out a long while with my blood test letter ; n then came didn't say much and said here you go - ur next appt to see doctor end of next month !
I loose it at that point - I said here I m - failed my first fresh cycle , I need to understand what went wrong and I want to plan next step asap coz my age is not young and what kind of Counselling or support kkh give for failed cases ? Morally ? Nothing correct ? With that insistence , she said why not u go front desk again (payment area) and ask for earlier appointment to see doc ? Blur enough why I need to do that myself - I went to the front ; press a q number n waited. 2 young Nurses - one is trainee and one experienced - I was firm and demanded for earlier doc meeting . From a 2 months wait (just to review the cycle ; not to start a new cycle) ; I got an appt this Thursday AM. Will update more after Thursday appt.
Also, I didn't see dr Zou or any Tcm earlier coz I had not very successful stories with TCM (one even sell USANA products as her main supplements !) and a gf adviced don't eat any Chinese herb during Ivf.
But since my flow quite heavy this time ; n I feel cramp on one side (like literally ; I m drying up fr bleeding kind of cramp, haha exaggerating); I decided to go dr Zou .
Went there yesterday without appointment at 12pm ; thinking can last min squeeze myself in before lunch time 1pm close. To my surprise , No DOCTOR for a month during morning ! The gatekeeper said morning doc is not Dr Zou n currently Travelling in US . Afternoon starts 330pm onwards will be Dr Zou n she's fully packed in the afternoon though he said u can go shopping centre nearby n hang n come back later. I didn't . Coz I need to pick my Son.
Today I went again without appt at the time gatekeeper highly recommend that's Low peak - 4plus PM . He forgotten what he said to me but I insisted he suggested I walked in that timing n I did! No choice he gave me a number , only 3 numbers away , I waited 30 mins... n seeing Dr Zou n her lady assistant is my best experience in my whole cycle so far !
Both of them ESP Dr Zou explained so many things to me that I couldn't pick up fr this forum n fully understood now! I happened to bring my 2 embryos pics n she looked at it and said -it's 2 days old ? I said no, 3 days old . She said , having 8 cells is optimal and I only have 4-5 cells each egg. I said why didn't kk waited one more day ? She said sometimes one more day the egg will not succeed ... so kk will never recommend it coz some patients will be too disappointed if no FET done. N good eggs should continue to grow cells even after transfer but she said looking at the pic n understanding my history and I have hypertension - she said my quality of eggs not so good ... mystery solved !!! It's not my carrying of my son! Basically my eggs looked weak to start with. N I only had 6 good eggs , 3 fertilised , the other 3 dunno it's status yet (kk hasn't told me as of FET day).
As I was still bleeding , she couldn't give me acupuncture , just one week of Med and ask me to return for acu when I stop bleeding. Hence I have a much clearer understanding of most things now ...
Lastly - i bumped into a close gf with a 4 months old baby girl (2nd child); n I blurt out n said - can I be her godma? She happily said yes ! At that point of Time - I suddenly felt total relieve ! I have a GodDaughter I can shower my love ... my Son can experience having a "Sister" ; I don't have to stress giving my Son a sibling or two ! I dunno maybe it's just me...
I don't know if I can go through another round of IVF. With my impatient and restless and "mang Zhang" character - it's just too much for me to endure another 2WW. Of course , nothing compared to holding our own baby , but with all the stress ... I felt like I might give up after this round ....
That's all sisters. Thank you for reading my post!
Take care everyone and good luck !
Hi Michng , I hope you are seeing a TCM to bu after your MC. Western Med may not be able to explain why the MC. But I think TCM can... not sure if you have mentioned in previous thread, where are you now in your cycle ? Your status in the forum is "well known member" le ... I really see you up as the most experienced here ... but I hope you are already carrying good news. I really hope all mummies want to be for first time be blessed with a baby very soon !
Hi I'm afraid that my Ohss will arise as doc say I have more than 15 eggs retrieve. I am not sure why my Menses came before bt too. My doctor is Jessie Phoon. what about yours? I got chance upon that she did help one girl success for her first fresh. Now I see red already have phobia for another cycle. I was also surprised why is not the gynae doing the scan for us .
May I now which
What is IM?
Hi I'm also not sure cos I copy and paste from the articlr
Hi fyi.. for FET only 3 days of HL is given.. do check with ur doc to extend
i have not considered yet. just got my embryo summary that I only left 2 blasto to freeze
how about urs?i have been seeing tcm dr tsb concurrently for 2 years. my tcm dr just shrugged and said it happens. since I didn't see any improvement before and after tcm for 2 yrs, I'm gonna stop already.
i have not considered yet. just got my embryo summary that I only left 2 blasto to freeze
hugs. I have the same outcomes. no heartbeats are not implantation issue but embryo health / recurrent mc. u could try getting more tests to check if there is genetic issues in you / hubby and immunology issues in you. these are the 2 common factors for recurrent mc.
we have done the immunology test and genetic issue that is no problem on both of us, maybe just what you say wait right embryo.
wow 10yrs
Yea really fast..cos mine was only 5weeks hence faster ba..I talked to both western n tcm doctor..and I'm going to try for natural...i requested to redo my heath tests since some seem outdated... and also some chromosomal test...i have 1 last frozen embryo so I intend to try natural for 3cycles before going for the next FET...am also going to switch tcm dr to another well-known Dr Tan at clementi...
Have u tried acupuncture? Or praying to the religion you believe in? Or talking to your embryo? (Sounds abit silly but at this point I will just do anything for a kid..I even made my husband pray and talk to the embryo daily =X)
may i know where did u do chromosomes test?
How much it cost?
Me doing accupunture i think it helps.
Hi changing to dr Tan HH will become a private doc service already , no more subsidise. Anyone done it ? dr Tan HH is much older and more experience right ? He's so popular that he stopped seeing subsidise patients n became fully private
Hi babe, me! I switch from jerry chan to dr tan hh after all my test done
coz for ivf procedure all is under private rate...Dr Tan Kian Seng correct ? The Super famous TCM in the west. The Wife works with him as well. Very nice humble people but can be quite blur in their administration . They called me n my Husband up chasing for a pending $40 payment. It's their manual recordings mistake but no actual short of $40 fr bank statement ! They trust their Super manual recording of "owe $40" in Chinese; when my hubby did actually walk all the way to find atm n return and pay $40 but they were too bz to record down /forgotten and months later came n ask for the $40... that incident broke out faith in him, which is unfortunate coz I am totally impressed he can just touch your womb n know how many eggs u have ! N he paste many successful baby photos on wall. So do bring lots of cash when u see him. Atm is far. Wait time is ok if you make appt. he's much older than dr Zou.
Hi Hi, so how do you change it ? Just tell the nurse ? I want my frozen FET procedure to be done by DR Tan HH fully . Why did you change btw?Hi babe, me! I switch from jerry chan to dr tan hh after all my test donecoz for ivf procedure all is under private rate...
Hi sweetpaine, i didn start any ivf procedure with dr jerry as both my husband and myself not bery comfortable with him .. as he always in a rush ... when i go see my tcm she advice me if i really wan to go for ivf look for a better doc.. so once i finished all my test i immediately change to dr tan hh.. juz call kkh appointment hotline to book for a appointment slot with dr tan hh but his appt can be quite long...
Rina ... you gave up caffeine ? No more Kopi? I can't do it ... I have hypertension n hence - naturally tensed, frustrated , impatient person is part of me. Smells of coffee wake me up ! Energize me even more. Are you with dr Zou also ? I think I might have slower down a bit but I am still very mang Zhang at home when hubby not doing anything , when my son is bored/ no one play with him... at least you can pick up a book and read, I don't think I have any patience for that.
I just read straighttimes newspaper yesterday at kkh. There was an article of a single mum adopted a child within a year on her own , no legal fees involved . But I am confused by the story , she's the biological mum of the child ? Why she need to adopt her ?
are u convenient to let us know the price ?
