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Breast Feeding

Discussion in 'Motherhood, Pregnancies And Babies' started by jolyn00, Feb 8, 2006.

  1. jolyn00

    jolyn00 New Member

    anybody can advise if we can feed baby on one breast, while pumping on the other? will it cause the other side to slow down the milk flow.

    how to manage evey 3hrs getting up to feed the baby, will it cause depression if didnt sleep well?

    which cooler bag & ice pack is recommended for storage of Breast milk. if i store my breast milk in fridge at work, can i use the normal warmer bag instead of cooler bag? will the brestmilk turn bad within 1hr?
     
  2. ohmig0sh

    ohmig0sh Active Member

    Hi Jolyn,

    Feeding on one breast & pumping on the other is unlikely to cause milk flow to slow down. Although i've never tried it, but some mummies find this method actually allows more milk to be expressed cos of the let-down reflex induced by baby sucking. [​IMG]

    The 1st few days/weeks of BF is the toughest. After that it'll be easier (at least dun have to get up to fix formula in the middle of the night). Once u get the hang of it, can BF while lying/sleeping..heheh! And try to rest as much as u can when BB sleeps..dun bother abt housework etc, then u won;t feel too burnt out!

    I used a regular cooler bag...any ice pack will do. Not sure how ur warmer bag is like? Must maintain the breastmilk at low temperature.
     
  3. jolyn00

    jolyn00 New Member

    Hi Omg,

    which brand of cooler bag u used? the warmer bag i'm refering to is those used to carry milk bottle (normally used to carry warm water)
     
  4. ohmig0sh

    ohmig0sh Active Member

    Hi Jolyn,
    My cooler bag is brandless. My friend bought for me from Kiddy Palace..it's just a small plain black cuboid bag, comes with a cold pack...i think she said it's ~$10. Not sure whether the warmer bag can maintain the temperature of the breastmilk..but it's more bulky than the cooler bag.
     
  5. superbabymama

    superbabymama New Member

    hi jolyn,

    i actually used the baby on one side pump on the other to promote my milk production.

    I ebm back at work..and the single pump made my milk amount drop drastically. So on weekends, i would let my baby drink from one side..and express the other. With the let down reflex, could get more milk from one side and increase the flow.

    I changed to pump in style advance which had let down reflex after trying 1 month wif the mini electric.

    If you work more than 8 hrs...try to put your ice pack in the work place freezer (store it in clean container if freezer used by others)..until you need it. With two ice packs...can maintain temp for about 12 hours tops. After that...milk cannot tahan till next day. Cannot use the warmer one leh..how to put ice pack in it?

    My baby used to need 2 hourly feeds. So to keep myself sane...(i was home alone during my maternity) I sleep when he sleep. sometimes tempted to stay up later..become very grouchy for the next few feeds.
     
  6. jolyn00

    jolyn00 New Member

    Hi Audrey,

    u mean eventhough i left my BM in chiller (in office ard 8 hours), after work when i bring home (put in cooler bag with 2 ice packs, ard 45mins travelling), upon reaching home placed the BM back to chiller, the BM can only last for another 12hours?
     
  7. superbabymama

    superbabymama New Member

    hi jolyn,

    from my own experiences, can last about 24 hours. I try not too keep too long. But it depends on how sterile you were when ebm-ing.

    When i use freshly sterilized bottles and funnels and keep at constant temp, the bm can last 2 days in fridge.

    If got different temp, and sterility compromised equipment (bottles and funnel), my bm turned bad if i put beyond 36 hours.

    I use smell check. But i read from some...some bm can last 48 hours.

    So it depends lah. You can check out other threads. They have got a lot of sites about ebm storage matters
     
  8. jolyn00

    jolyn00 New Member

    oic. thks.
     
  9. oinkoink

    oinkoink New Member

    Hi mummies! do you clean your nipple and aerola area before you latch on or express milk?
     
  10. ylyl

    ylyl New Member

    I don't clean my nipple and areola area cos it's actually can 'self-clean'. so nt necessary to clean it everytime before latching or expressing. also afraid frequent cleaning will cause dryness.
     
  11. oinkoink

    oinkoink New Member

    thanks YL. but sometimes i feel that the nipple is not 'clean' esp after been in contact with the moist nursing pad...the milk that is absorbed by the nursing pad may have turned 'sour'...dont know if i too imaginative...but i just worry about hygience...
     
  12. ylyl

    ylyl New Member

    actually we should change the nursing pad often. cos bacteria might breed in the pad. so i find better don't let it become too moist before changing.
     
  13. bess

    bess Member

    Hi all mummies,

    i have a question, u c ah.. when we 1st try to pump out BM, the supply sure very little.. but we still store it in the freezer rite... then maybe 2-3 hrs later, i pump again. can i mix those freshly EBM with those tat i have stored in the freezer 2-3hrs ago and keep for future use?
    cos i m thinking if din mix together, i will have a hard time to warmer up so many bottles of milk and the amount of each bottle might jus 20-30ml. waste of storage space too..
     
  14. ter_wen

    ter_wen Active Member

    mayb i fu haven't reach the reqd amt u can chill 1st instead of freeze.
    u can mix chilled ebm n freshly expressed ebm (but gotta let it cool down from ur body temp 1st)
    if using within 3 days no need freeze.
     
  15. bess

    bess Member

    thanks wendy.. u cleared my doubt.. so happy [​IMG]
     
  16. jolyn00

    jolyn00 New Member

    do you know which brand of cooler bag / ice pack is good
     
  17. ylyl

    ylyl New Member

    u need to keep ur EBM in the bag for how many hrs? I'm using ice sheet bought from MIM. so far i using it for abt 6hrs in an avent thermal bag. works well for me.

    I'm looking for a cooler bag that can put in my avent pump, bottles n ice brick. still searching. heard that munchkin cooler bag can put in all these but nt sure how it looks like. I might choose coleman cooler bag.

    I heard coleman cooler bag can keep milk cold for up to 12 hrs. With 2 ice brick can even use as a mini fridge.
     
  18. bess

    bess Member

    where can i get the coleman cooler bag? is it very big? can keep how many bottles/packs of milk?
     
  19. kris

    kris New Member

    Yan: I'm a bfing mom too. [​IMG] You can get coleman bricks and cooler bags at Taka Dept Store, 5th level where the sports section is. The coleman section is placed near the escalator that's nearer to the spa there.
     
  20. ylyl

    ylyl New Member

    Yan
    I'm nt sure abt the coleman size. cos I've only seen the pic only nt the actual bag. only know it can put in 6-12 cans of drinks.
     
  21. bess

    bess Member

    kris and yl,

    thanks for your info,,
    wah 6-12 cans of drinks, then the bag must be big.. will go down have a look this weekend if bb still dun want to come out [​IMG] my edd is on 13th mar, but till now bb not engage yet [​IMG]
     
  22. ylyl

    ylyl New Member

    how many bottles of milk u intend to put in? if u saw the bag, let me know if it can put in a avent pump, ice brick n 2-3 avent bottles. thanks
     
  23. michelle78

    michelle78 New Member

    hi michelle here
    to all mother out there i looking for breast milk for my 6 month old baby due to my husband pass away recently i need to be on long term anti drpession medicine my doctor say i need to stop breastfeeding totally n my baby is allgeric to formual milk once she drink formual milk she will vomit n have stomah upset my milk supply is running out already i left with only 10 packet i have try all type of milk powder but she jus cant drink she jus throw out whatever thing we give her so i hope mother out who have milk to spare can donate to me a million thank to all mother u can contact me at 93668423
     
  24. lbs

    lbs New Member

    hi Michelle
    My heart goes out to you. It must have been tough for you. *hugz*
    Understand some babies who are allergy to cow milk can actually take soy-based or goat milk. Have you consider this option? Just a suggestion but do hope there are some mummies who can donate their extra BM to your baby.

    Take care, yea?
     
  25. Koalarie

    Koalarie Active Member

    Ibs,
    I was thinking of asking michelle as well through PM.

    Michelle,
    Can't PM u. U may want 2 turn on tat? =p

    Like what Ibs ask, I read that soy based or goat milk re close to human's bm... would tix do 4 ur dear bb? I not given birth yet.. so not sure of the supply yet.. but pray 4 u that they would b ppl able 2 help u out on tix. = )

    Sorry to hear abt the loss. Stay strong.
     
  26. michelle78

    michelle78 New Member

    i have try all kind of milk but she jus cant take any got some time she even throw out until go kk hospital
     
  27. michelle78

    michelle78 New Member

    thank for your concern i gald that still got people out there who care got time i really feel like taking them with me to join my husband
     
  28. shook

    shook New Member

    Michelle
    So sorry to hear abt your situation. I like to but can't donate my breast milk to your bb coz my son is 22 mth old. My breastmilk will not contain enuff nutrient for 6mth old baby. Pls be careful when u get breastmilk. Breastmilk nutrient changes according to age of baby. Baby of older age can consume breastmilk meant for baby of younger age but not the other way round. ie u can only give your baby breastmilk for baby not > 6mth since your baby is 6mth old
     
  29. michelle78

    michelle78 New Member

    foreverfriend
    it ok thank for your help
     
  30. michelle78

    michelle78 New Member

    if u have milk to spare i dun mind if it does nt contain enough nutrient she have something better than dun have i cant bear to see her everyday jus cry non stop if u can spare me some i will be very greatful to u i have spend a lot of money jus to bring her go n see doctor a million thank to u
     
  31. michelle78

    michelle78 New Member

    hope can hear gd new from u soon
     
  32. shook

    shook New Member

    Michelle
    I can understand how desparate u r. U c, my son is already on solid, my breastmilk will not hv enuff fat content n it will b adjusted in a way dat it is meant for a 21 mth old stomach. Your baby may not b able to digest my breastmilk. Even for formula milk there is stage 1 2 n 3 for baby of different age. Baby older than 6 mth can take stage 1 formula milk but baby < 6mth cannot take stage 3 formula milk. I m worried it is detrimental for your baby to take my breastmilk since the age gap between my son and your baby is very very wide. I am now trying to ask around to see if there are people whose baby is around or younger than your baby who can donate breastmilk to your baby. Really hope to give you good news. Please cross your fingers
     
  33. michelle78

    michelle78 New Member

    ok i will wait for your gd new thank a lot
     
  34. shook

    shook New Member

    Michelle
    My friend saw your posting n contacted u. She is the 1 meeting u on Mon. I m waiting for 2 more replies
     
  35. michelle78

    michelle78 New Member

    oh ok thank
     
  36. popples

    popples Member

    Hi Michelle,

    This is Elaine who contacted u...sorrie tat I couldnt meet you today as I was busy. I'll contact u again. If not tis weekend means on Mon too.
     
  37. michelle78

    michelle78 New Member

    it ok thank a lot for your help i really very greatful to u
     
  38. popples

    popples Member

    Hi Shook,

    Do you know if your friend is donating breastmilk one-time or on-going? Need to know so tat I can calculate my side too.

    Thanks!
     
  39. pietra

    pietra Active Member

    hi michelle, let me check with other mummies.. seems like some of them have extra.. will pass your number to them.
    sorry to hear about your situation... be strong
     
  40. michelle78

    michelle78 New Member

    thank phoebe
    thank for your help
     
  41. michelle78

    michelle78 New Member

    hi phoebe
    thank for your help
     
  42. paperplane

    paperplane New Member

    i am going to collect and post all cutie icons here soon.. kekeke.. remember to save it hor..
     
  43. paperplane

    paperplane New Member

    oops.. didn't meant to post it here.. sorry..:p
     
  44. shook

    shook New Member

    Elaine
    My friend said she need to c wat's her bb's demand to decide whether to donate on on going basis of 1 time off

    Michelle
    1 of my friend can donate her bm to u. Her bb is 4 mth old. She is in BKK. Will donate when she is back.
     
  45. mayng

    mayng New Member

    Michelle: Hi, I am carole and spoken to you on the phone this morning. I am very sorry to hear abt your situation and hoping much to help you too. Just to let you know, those EBM in the freezer will not be of the same colour as the normal EBM as they are being freezed so hope u know that its nt the milk has turned bad.

    I will gather my friends to help u too. [​IMG]
     
  46. michelle78

    michelle78 New Member

    thank carole
    i really very greatful for your help a million thank to u
     
  47. michelle78

    michelle78 New Member

    hi to all mother out there
    hi a millon thank to mother who have donate their bm to me i really greatful to all of u who willng to help i really very touch thank a lot
     
  48. shook

    shook New Member

  49. michelle78

    michelle78 New Member

    but the medicine i taking nw is fluvoamine meleate dun know wheather can change the medicine or nt btw i nw totally got no more bm already thank for your concern i really very greatful to u
     
  50. shook

    shook New Member

    Michelle
    Can check wif your Dr if u can switch to breastfeeding safe anti-depressants if u like to switch

    How long hv u stopped breastfeeding dat u hv no more breast milk?
     
  51. mayng

    mayng New Member

    Michelle: nice meeting you. How come you are so thin? u arent eating well? Do you mind telling us what happen to your hubby?
     
  52. michelle78

    michelle78 New Member

    hi sook
    since the day i give birth
     
  53. michelle78

    michelle78 New Member

    hi carole
    my husband last year commit succide he jump rite down in front of us when i 6 month pregent at that time i really dun know wat to do when he jus pass away i got think of commit succide so my parent suggest i go n see doctor as that time i still pregent i cant take any anti dpression medicine so i need to see my doctor every week until i give birth my husband own a lot of debt outside he own loan shark own hdb loan own pub ouw town concuil own a lot of car summons n child school fee own hospital bill i also dun know wat to say about him but after all he still a gd father n a gd husband we all miss him a lot although he pass away 1 year we will alway remembr him so after i give birth my doctor my start me on anti drpession medicine when my baby turn 1 month on that i nearly throw her down where my husband jump luckily i was stop by my family member so they call my doctor n my doctor admit me to sgh for 2 week last time i nt so thin wan if i nt wrong i weight about 40kg but since my hubby pass away my weight drop to 32kg only the new even got come out in newpaper carole i really very greatful for your help
     
  54. mayng

    mayng New Member

    i am soo sorry... are your kids schooling? need help? i can try to help arrange schools for them.
     
  55. michelle78

    michelle78 New Member

    hi carole
    thank for your help as my kids are already in primary school my 2nd child nw in childcare i really very greatful to for your help
     
  56. mayng

    mayng New Member

    michelle: stay strong! ur kids need you and ur love, dun give up on urself. there is always a miracle.
     
  57. michelle78

    michelle78 New Member

    hi carole
    i also hope i can stay strong but with all the stress that the kids have given plus the stress that my mum have given me i also dun know hw long i can last the house at chinatown is my mum house and she keep asking me to move back to my own house
     
  58. mayng

    mayng New Member

    michelle: are u afraid of going home becos its the plc where u wintess the death of your hubby? sad to recall those episodes on that DAY? Dear girl, dun be afraid. When you are afraid, your children will know, they will feel it too. You have already come so far in giving birth to your little girl and when through the medications too, moving on is not going to be a big problem at all. All you need is people ard you to encourage you and yourself to pick up those pieces and move on.

    Do you wan to share with us what stress your mum is giving you? i bet your mum is worried abt you too, but space is limited at your mum's plc with your 3 kids, maid and yourself. maybe thats her concern.

    We cant be in your shoes to understand how much u went through, but at least we are here to encourage you and be with you virtually and emotionally. Take a step at each time. let us know what we can do to help u. [​IMG] I have gotten 2 more friends to donate EBM to your little girl. Have you tried the goat's milk? maybe u try to ask PD for help.

    Michelle, how young are you?
     
  59. michelle78

    michelle78 New Member

    hi carole
    actually my hubby commit sucide at my mum place. my mum keep saying she spend a lot on me n the 3 kids n i got no money to give her my dad suffering from dibatic sorry dun know hw to spell n my mum also got leg pain n a lot of sickness n she is the only wan that is working to support the family that why she alway nagging at me. my 2nd son is suffering from asthma too every 3 month he need to go back kkh to check up .this year i turning 28 already
     
  60. michelle78

    michelle78 New Member

    thank carole
    u dun even know me but yet u can understand me care for me concern about me n my kids but my own mother dun understand me at all.i really glad that still got people care for me dun worry i will be strong.no matter wat i still have my 3 kids
     

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