Advice to Parents whose children are going to Pri 1

Discussion in 'Year 2004 and earlier Mums' started by babyjewels, Jun 17, 2008.

  1. babyjewels

    babyjewels Member

    I am teaching P1 this year and i realised that kids nowadays speak well but cannot read as well. As a result, they cannot complete their test papers on time as too much time is spent reading. My advice is start your kids on reading before they go to P1.
  2. alcovelet

    alcovelet New Member

    Deborah, tks for the great advice. Do you have other pearls of wisdom?
  3. zhen49

    zhen49 Active Member

    deborah,
    you are partially right. my boy can speak well....he can read well...the problem is that he does not understand what he read. he has to read a few times, or even i have to read it before he understand what is being written. it has since improve as i forced him to read more frequently.

    ya...any other things we need to prepare for P1? TIA
  4. pressuredkid

    pressuredkid Member

    Hi Deborah

    Thanks for sharing. How about the writing part? My dd's handwriting is terrible, always never space in between words, have told her till I give up.

    Any mummies have that problem?
  5. yuki

    yuki New Member

    Hi mummies,

    My gal is in K1 now and i already start worrying about the Pri 1.

    My gal can speak relatively well, but lazy to read and write.....

    Yet i know they are expected to write short composition in P1.......... Hai........
  6. babyjewels

    babyjewels Member

    I'll be posting mistakes that P1 kids make as and when I have the time.....hopefully, that'll help you guide your kids, and P1 will be less painful for you and for them!
  7. zhen49

    zhen49 Active Member

    PressuredKid,
    my boy's handwriting used to be terrible for both chinese and english. i guess practice makes perfect. now his handwriting is so much better.

    Deborah,
    TIA. [​IMG]
  8. pressuredkid

    pressuredkid Member

    Hi fz

    Your boy do not mind writing? My gal hates it leh, so how to motivate her to practice? Since young I've trouble getting her to write a page of alphabets or strokes in chinese, she'll finish just 1 row and that's it, complain she hand ache and give all excuses. She cannot sit still so only prefer to do maths and matching kind of assessment, when it comes to writing or coloring, she'll skip those pages. She'll still do reading of passages and complete the compre questions but her writing is something I can never accept, even for short ones like rearranging of sentences, she will write very horribly. You see her write, can faint ah.
  9. zhen49

    zhen49 Active Member

    pressuredkid,
    my boy does not like writing too. but we don't do it daily, so he is still ok. he gets motivated when we praise him for his nice handwriting. for mandarin, his teacher in berries commented that he needs improvement so he got no choice but to practice. i do not allow my boy to skip pages when doing assessment...i usually give a variety of matching and writing.

    it'll get better when she starts practicing.
  10. chris170773

    chris170773 New Member

    its true that they are expected to be able to read as there are problem sums in maths and they need to read all instructions before they can start doing the homework...

    My gal started P1 this year. Started her on Kumon english and maths last Jan and it helps a lot. Now she enjoys reading very much!
  11. babyjewels

    babyjewels Member

    i think it's very important to teach them phonics well. it need not be "branded" phonics, that is, going for special phonics training. it's better that parents just spend 10 or 15 mins each day on phonics with their kids. once the child is familiar with the sounds, it's easy for them to pick up on reading. don't need to spend too much on costly phonics classes.
  12. reg28

    reg28 New Member

    hi deborah,
    can u provide some advice on how we can teach kids phonics?
    shd we be buying any books on phonics? any recommendations?
    thanks!
  13. cloveryfaith

    cloveryfaith New Member

    How should I go about teaching my child to prepare her for pri 1? Maybe that's the reason why parents send kids to childcare/playgroup so they can learn better. They are better off than staying at home.
  14. little_pony

    little_pony Active Member

    me too having a gal going p1 next year but i look at her she is like totally unprepared. Still day dream, refuse to do her maths. Writing worst but enjoys reading. how how
  15. 3bagsfull

    3bagsfull Member

    PressuredKid (pressuredkid) & fz (zhen49)

    Ha ha my ah boy just like ur kids lor, handwritting very terrible.

    Actually he likes writing, but he just can't get the shape/strokes right. After so many times of teaching/holding hands/scolding, the same words he still writes in the same awful way.

    I also try to help him to learn phonics. Eg. I'll ask him write "OOD" and teach him the sound, and then i will add in different letters in front like F-OOD, G-OOD, M-OOD etc. and ask him to write and read to me. So far it works pretty well this way. [​IMG]

    As for Chinese, I would number the sequence of the strokes on the row i wrote for him as example. In the end the shape is almost there but I must stress repeatedly that the sequences make a difference in Chinese, if not, he would just be like drawing squares and lines and try to piece them together to look like a word.

    I would say that for reading, he love to be read to rather than read himself. Must really coach him word by word many times then he can read out 1 book by himself.
  16. babyjewels

    babyjewels Member

    Illegible handwriting drives teachers mad...ha ha...but really, it's important for the kids to learn how to write clear enough for the teachers to decipher what is being written. so, start penmanship for your kids now! praise and reward them when the writing is beautiful. it's really a matter of practice.
  17. babyjewels

    babyjewels Member

    start with the a e i o u sounds for phonics. for those who want to know what's next to teach for phonics, you can pm me....i'll help answer if i have the time....for now, do vowels first.
  18. reg28

    reg28 New Member

    hi deborah,
    these days i start to hear alot abt parents sending their kids for creative writing. What do they teach in the creative writing classes, and when shd we start kids on these lessons?
    My gal is 5 this yr and i dont knw how to gauge where her standard is now. am afraid for her if she is behind the rest then she will hav difficulty coping during P1.
  19. reg28

    reg28 New Member

    btw deborah, i pm u abt phonics too.
  20. cloveryfaith

    cloveryfaith New Member

    deborah, i pm u abt phonics too.
  21. babyjewels

    babyjewels Member

    will reply soon. for now, start with the sounds of a, e, i, o, u. don't rush your kids. let them slowly digest. i'd suggest you do one vowel per week. for the very fast ones, one letter every 5 days. give them examples like 'a' cat, 'a' bat,....u, hut, u, but....
  22. kssg777

    kssg777 New Member

    Hi Deborah,
    Great to see a dedicated teacher like you helping all the parents out here.
    What are your views on those chinese teacher who cant speak proper mandarin ? How are they going to teach han yu pin yin??? My son speaks fairly well mandarin & able to read & write mandarin. He is currently in K2 , going to primary one next year. Just wondering will those teacher be offended when a young boy corrects their mandarin. & how am i going to teach him to be more diplomatic ??? As his current kindergarten encourages the kids to be more out spoken, so i am just afraid he will offend the teacher.Pls advise.
  23. babyjewels

    babyjewels Member

    hi kssg,

    oh, are there chinese teachers who can't speak proper mandarin? in my school, the chinese teachers are really proficient in their mandarin, so i really can't advise you on your question.
  24. zhen49

    zhen49 Active Member

    Hi kssg,
    it is good to teach the kid to be more diplomatic. not only towards teachers, but to friends as well...just in case he offend some older kids and get into bullying situation.
    I told my boy to let me know what are the teachings that he think is incorrect and then i will guide him accordingly. his current PCF's teacher did made certain mistakes (mandarin words usage, english words description) and we told him to clarify on the basis that the kid may hear incorrectly instead of the teacher teaching wrongly.
    jmho
  25. kssg777

    kssg777 New Member

    Dear Deborah & fz,
    Thanks for your advise. Got to work on my kid's EQ as well. [​IMG]))
  26. yuki

    yuki New Member

    Hi deborah,

    What about maths? Are the P1 kids expected to know multipication too?

    Am thinking if i should send my K1 gal to Kumon for maths and chinese......

    She's lazy in doing work at home so maybe kumon environment will cultivate the habit of doing work..... Yet i am afraid i place too much pressure on her..........
  27. twinklemint

    twinklemint New Member

    hi , my son is now in N2, last time he does not like to write . But after i change him to a new childcare(Capier Diem), he likes writing alot. Now he is writing 1-30, A-Z ( upper and lower and also some chinese words with the correct strokes...
    I think a good preschool really matters alot
  28. babyjewels

    babyjewels Member

    sorry,

    i've been so busy at work and at home, so couldn't write. another mistake that kids make is when they erase something and in the process, something else is erased and they completely forget to write that back. in a test when the answer is not clear, we'll just mark it wrong.
  29. ladeline28

    ladeline28 Member

  30. little_pony

    little_pony Active Member

    Adeline
    My gal going P1 next year. I can't help worrying for her too. She loves to read but hates to sit down and do the work. Cannot be bother about homework in fact school does not have and I am the one who is feeding her with things to do. sigh

    Where do you stay ? Currently I have 4 kids at my house 2 in P1 and 2 going P1 next year attending chinese class on Sat by a native teacher. If you are near CCK, you may like to join us
  31. hippo2002

    hippo2002 New Member

    Yuki

    Kumon is indeed very shiong for the child, even more shiong for parents

    I withdrawn my girl from Kumon last year because she day dream & sat at her desks for hours.
    I placed her back to Kumon a few months ago at her request. But still the same leh. I must sit right next to her & keep nagging her. Where got independent??!!

    Aiya, plan to withdraw her this year before she goes P1. Too time consuming lah

    She's doing fraction now. I think no point being so advanced, better tackle the P1 & P2 syllabus first

    Nevertheless, Kumon is good if your child has the discipline to do homework automatically & independently
  32. tanlengleng

    tanlengleng Active Member

  33. hippo2002

    hippo2002 New Member

    deborah

    I heard there is a test during P1 orientation to stream the kids into respective classes.
    What kind of test is that? English or Chinese?
    read a passage or a written test?

    also, any advice on how to reduce carelessness?


    thanks [​IMG]
  34. chime68

    chime68 New Member

    indeed very stressed! my gal next year P1...aiyoh!!! stressed!! worried also the Math problem sums. they can read the problem sums but dun understand it...then cannot do. but when I explain, she can do. but cannot always explain to her....ultimately me not following her to school.....
  35. ladeline28

    ladeline28 Member

    Chicken Little,
    Thanks for the offer but I live in the east. Looking for an enrichment centre around here.
  36. babyjewels

    babyjewels Member

    In P1, the kids will be required to do compo in the 2nd semester. Compo will be tested on. The kids are required to write min 8 sentences. Get your child to write simple sentences now. Start training them in their tenses and punctuation.
  37. cloveryfaith

    cloveryfaith New Member

    Wow P1 doing compo! I dun recall doing any compo while I was in P1... Being a parent now is as stress as being a student in school.
  38. ladeline28

    ladeline28 Member

    My son is in P1 now and he is required to write 80 words for compo already! So stress!
  39. xuerkai

    xuerkai New Member

    Hi Adeline,

    Which school is your son in?
  40. ladeline28

    ladeline28 Member

    Hi Xuer,
    My son is in St Stephen's. Although the school's standard is not high but they have homework everyday, sometimes for all 3 subjects, sometimes 1 or 2 subjects. Actually not much time left to do revise work or reading with him.
  41. cloveryfaith

    cloveryfaith New Member

    I read a blog from tamarind. She shares with us how she taught her children to read. Very informative. If I ever come across the link will share with you. Now her kid 4-5 yrs can read chim story books! She's a ftwm and still she puts in a lot of effort to teach her childrent o read. Pei fu...
  42. xuerkai

    xuerkai New Member

    Hi adeline,

    Does that mean that your son spend most of his time doing homework? My son is only 4 years old this year. I gathering feedback and info to decide which primary school is suitable for him. Considering from SAP school to neighbourhood school... kinda kiasu :p
  43. wahwah

    wahwah Member

    Hi mummies,
    Actually most of the schools will start Compo writing in P1. My P1 son is doing that too, sitting for written expression test tomorrow, its part of their CA2 English paper.

    Adeline,
    My son also has homework almost everyday too. There was once he was absent for 2 days, he came home with many pages of homework for the different subjects and all to be handed in the next day! I agree, really not much time left for revision.
  44. hi_squirrel

    hi_squirrel New Member

  45. ladeline28

    ladeline28 Member

    Hi Xuer,
    It depends on how fast my son does his homework. I also want to give him some time to relax and enjoy life a little, let him play or watch tv. I heard some schools don't have much homework e.g. Temasek Primary. But I suppose their parents have to work a little harder to give them assessments to practise what was taught in school.

    Hi WahWah,
    Which school is your son in?
  46. wahwah

    wahwah Member

    Hi Adeline,
    My son is in Canberra Pri, a neighbourhood sch in Sembawang.
  47. cloveryfaith

    cloveryfaith New Member

    Yes hi_squirrel (hi_squirrel), thanks for posting the link cos I lost the thread already.. Trying to search in vain. Hi Mummies, do take alook. I think it may help you too..I am going to try that to my child, hopefully I can see results.
  48. stichinthebox

    stichinthebox New Member

    Hi mummies,

    Maybe you might want to send your chldren for creative writing class it very effective. The school accept children from k2 to upper primary for both chinese and english class. It located at AMK and Seragoon
  49. natellehcim

    natellehcim Member

    Hi WahWah, so you stay in Sembawang? Me also but did not send my kid to Canberra. Heard quite stressful there.
  50. wahwah

    wahwah Member

    Hi natellehcim,
    Yes, I stay in Sembawang. So where did you send your kid to? Endeavour Pri or Wellington Pri?
    I think its stressful for parents not the kids, my boy is not stressed at all. Maybe he is too young to know what is stress. So far, he still enjoys going to school, doesn't mind sitting for tests and exams too!
  51. natellehcim

    natellehcim Member

    Oh that's good. registered my son in Sembawang Pri, due to distance.
  52. little_pony

    little_pony Active Member

    deborah
    need your advise. I just tested my gal. some simple books she can read and comprehend and answer my questions about the story.

    But when it gets a bit complicated she wont be able to answer.

    How should I train ? And since they will have compo in Pri 1. How can I get her ready for creative writing ?

    What reading materials would you recommend ? And which classes would you recommend to attend
  53. babyjewels

    babyjewels Member

    For compre, it's a matter of practice. For creative writing, start with pictures and give them helping words. With the helping words, they can form sentences. Emphasize on the importance of punctuations and tenses. When they are better at their compo after a while, you can do without the helping words.
  54. little_pony

    little_pony Active Member

    Deborah
    thanks. So books what do you recommend. I have rigby so which level my gal should be now at K2 and next year P1.

    For practice, how many words or sentences should I expect her to know now.

    Any recommended materials or school ?
  55. yvonnemommy

    yvonnemommy New Member

    Hi, everyone! My child is in P2. Just like Deborah said, she can speak well but read badly. My friend recommend a online web site beestar.org to me saying that the English language art exercises can help my child improve her reading efficiently, because her daughter has been using beestar for a long time. Does anyone here have any experience of beestar?
    Lisa
  56. chris170773

    chris170773 New Member

    I started my gal on Kumon when she was K2 last year as I realized she doesn't know how to read.. Stopped when she started P1 as she took up Ballet , Gym, piano and swimming as too shiong.. But now she is a bookworm, She can finished 4 books borrowed from the library in 3 days. Not the type of picture books for preschool but thin novels like the fairies books, Enid Blyton fairytales.. I could hardly keep up with her reading so got to try to make two trips to the library every week.. So I think Kumon really helps..
  57. luanee

    luanee New Member

    What about Maths? Is Kumon good? Or MPM? I was just doing a P1 assessment book with my girl (K2) yesterday and she doesn't know how to count the tens and ones.
  58. little_pony

    little_pony Active Member

    Luanee

    My gal is with MPM and I think she improves after joining since Jan 08. I know in Nanyang where she is going, maths will be quite manipulative like give you a ruler and a few clips. Then the length of the ruler is how many clips. This is something she is learning at MPM
  59. tobebride

    tobebride New Member

    May I know what is MPM?
  60. little_pony

    little_pony Active Member

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