Discussion in 'Year 2004 and earlier Mums' started by fei_fei, Aug 24, 2006.
My eldest son is 7 years old and he is now in P1. Anybody facing any problems teaching your kids?
hi fei fei
my son is also in P1.
when you say problems teaching, is it like your son does not want to study or you have problems with the syllabus?
i am quite a relax type of mum. but i do have some problems teaching him as i am not so in tune with the school's teaching methods. so at times i may be teaching him the wrong methods e.g. for math. then it just confuses him even more.
my eldest girl is in P1. Me too am not in tune with the school teaching method and my girl's school is not giving homeworks other than the weekly spelling and chinese spelling.So, being kiasu, i am giving her past yr CA and SA paper from other schools. Just let her get used to doing more difficult paper and learnt from copying the answer provided if she can't do it.
My son is in P1 too. Usually no time(too lazy and tired) to teach him except the weekly English and Chinese Spelling. I actually leave it to him to study on his own. Only come to his picture when he got CA1 or CA2 test.
noticed that there has been no discussion in this thread for a while.
My son is in P2 now. I do feel more stress now as compared to last year. His maths and English are fine. Only concern is his Chinese. Wanted to send him for classes like Hua, Tsien Hsia or Han... but he refused.
How do you coach your kids in Chinese?
I have no clue what does the kid do in primary 1.
Is it project based or worksheet based ?
thanks for sharing your experience
Can't comment much since I don't coach my son for Chinese becos' my Chinese is not that good. I just test him for Chinese spelling based on school list. But he attends Chinese enrichment since kindy days. So I've pretty much left this subject to the pros.
I think its a mix of group projects and worksheets nowadays. But I suppose it still largely depends on the school your child is in.
My main concern is how to improve son's English Compo. He does not like to read, so I find his vocab and sentence construction kinda weak. Anyone has ideas on how to coach child in this area? I've tried making him write more compo, and he detests it! How to make it fun learning? Please do share with me your ideas and experiences. Thanks.
In general, I think nowadays the teaching approach in schools are more interesting than previous.
DS#1's school uses BIG BOOK. But I don't really know what that means and when I ask him, he said the teacher uses a BIG BOOK to teach lor.... (got say like never say like that)
I think for lower primary school kids, it is quite normal that their compo is very factual. Most of the time, they do not add colours, taste, smell, touch, into the description.
Reading widely definitely helps increase their exposure to how people writes, but it is still in them whether they can "output" it or not.
DS#1 also have this problem, even though he reads A LOT. (I have tonnes of books at home and he has finished reading all...)
I too have problem wif my boy P2 chinese. Sent him for tuition, but seems not helping. Can write, but by itself, he cannot recognise the characters. How huh?
How to teach Chinese huh?
I used different approach for my 2 girls to learn chinese
my elder girl is attending Kumon Chinese now. Before Kumon, she attended Chinese at community center and RC. they seem to teach a lot because she can recognise & write quite a number of chinese characters and count the number of stroke and read hanyin pinyin, etc. But it's those drilling method so not suitable for my younger girl. my younger girl attends Chinese enrichment at another learning centre. They use the pictorial way of teaching. for each chinese character, they draw a picture. so my younger girl associate the picture with that chinese character and she can recognise those characters anywhere. but cannot write yet
maybe your son is like my younger girl, must use the pictorial way of learning
how do you find these learning ctr? And much do they normally charge?
My 2nd boy will be in P1 next year, I m getting worried already.
I just started my younger girl in Mar. so far ok lah, after the teacher teaches the words in class, she expects us to do flash cards with the child at home to refresh memory. my girl can remember the characters but I don't know is it long term or temporary, must observe some more
$130/month + material fee payable per term
Get your child to write the character 10 times. You may write the han yu pin yin below it.
Learning centre charges vary.
He now in a tuition ctr, a character make him write 10 to 15 times. He can copy and write, but cannot remember how to read it, and what it means.... headache.....
probably because he is not interested in Chinese?
Chinese can be quite boring lah
how about letting him attend Mandarin Speech & Drama? maybe can stimulate some interest
pr 2 go for speeach & drama, is it too old?
must ask him la..... if force him, later he come home black face.....
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hi all mummies,
can i join this thread? hope to get some tips from more experienced mums. i'm a SAHM with 3 kids - dd (born in 06/2003), ds (born in 10/2004, 08/2006).
sorry. dun hv time to read thru' previous postings ;-P
Sorry to intrude here, pls forward to everyone that you know that can help this bb.Thanks
Any website for learning chinese to share?
Hello to all the P2 mummies.
Have anyone here enrol your kids in MindChamp or any of your friend/relative?
Any successful story??
Hope to hear from P1, P2, P3 stories.
My girl attended when she was in P3 last yr. Beneficial in terms of absorbing what is taught better. Also spelling improved. However, parents must constantly use the methods (very applicable for Science only, I feel). The child does not automatically use the methods to study unless very simple ones like spelling.
Hi caroline3sg, can you share more on what is the method use by MindChamp. How does your child learn spelling? Using phonics or rote memory?
Hope you can share more on your experience.
How much did you pay for the MindChamp course and how many lessons are there? Each lesson how long is it?
Did you attend the course yourself otherwise how will you know how to apply the method yourself and how to encourage your kid to apply similar method? How much is the parent course?
Hope to hear from you. Thanks.
The cost is about $2500 and can be paid by instalment. The course is 16 weeks, 3 hours each with 15 min break in between. If you sign up, parent course is free. This parent course tells you what techniques they teach the children. But questions audience brought up are usually problem handling their children.
You don't have to worry the hours are so long, they are fun, the children enjoys going. There is no guarantee for P1/2 (P1&2 same class), meaning if your child score 80% or less, they would not give FOC module. But there is guarantee for P3/4. Based on the topics, it is better to go at P3.
You can call up the centre to arrange a salesperson to talk to you. He/She can "demonstrate" or shed little light on how they teach the children.
Thanks for sharing!
So sorry to bother you with so many questions. No lah dont want to talk to salesperson prefer to talk to parent whose kid had been through. The sales person tend to be driven by their commission when they talk.
What do you mean by guarantee for P3/4 only? P5/6? So it seems like P1/2 are too young and cannot absorbed and apply the method effectively and diligently.. hence no guarantee for P1/2. Better to send after P3 onwards? Guarantee in what way? Re-go through the course again and again. If the kid still cannot make it at 80% and above then how? Guarantee for how long?
Is there any guarantee that if the kids all along score average of 85% then after the course they must at least improve i.e. > 85% ? Any guarantee for such case? Is it better to send kids whose marks are way below 80%... to see the result and to worth the Big Investment of $2500? Why its more applicable to Science because of methods of memorizing of keys words?
Hope to hear from you. Thanks.
There is no obligation if you ask salesperson to demonstrate how (of course maybe you feel little obligation to sign up). Because I have some input from my daughter's friend's mother, I cut short the presentation about founder, research, right/left brain. So he showed me how my girl perform before & after in front of my eyes. So this demonstration you have to judge whether worth it or not. Or course, this "experiment" is just one aspect of it. They are salesperson, they are not teachers. But don't expect the salesperson to tell you all the techniques. He just show you one or two.
What I mean by "guarantee" is, after a module, they would be given a test. The test result would be given to children/parent at the end of the course. If your child score below 80% for a particular module(s), he/she would be able to attend that module(s) free. This 80% is not school results.
My personal opinion of those children who went through the course (I might be subjective) --> it seems those children are not top performers in school. That's why parents source around for courses for their children. They do not say that the kids are under achievers. They say because their hidden potential is not uncovered, which to a certain extent quite true due to our past learning experience and we pass them down through our body language and facial expressions. These negative responses limit children's creativity. In the parent workshop, they also mention kids have different learning styles, we have to know what style is our kids and use the style to teach them so they can absorb.
To give you more details on the learning styles, basically there are 4 types, namely (1) Visual, (2) Auditory, (3) ??? (4) Kinesthetic. A visual person learns using eyes. So by reading, he gains a lot. Around us we see some kids don't need parents to teach. They belong to this type as they read and read. An auditory person learns by listening. Just tell him and he knows. Kinesthetic children learns through body movement, engaging in activities. So if a parent's style is visual but the kid's style is kinesthetic, parent would be reading and reading science text but the kid still don't understand. The styles must be in sync.
Coming back to your question, no guarantee for P1/2 but has guarantee for P3/4 onwards, including P5/6. I don't know why no guarantee for P1/2. Why better to attend in P3 than P4? Because the topic covered for P3 Science is Life Cycle & Skeleton. P4 would have gone through them. For P3, it serves as teaching them the syllabus on topic of the techniques. Retake the module until you hit 80%. I like to highlight again, this marks means you master the techniques not syllabus. In Mindchamps they are teaching learning / study techniques.
So if your child is P2 this year, it is better to take the course from Nov/Dec (unless you are planning for overseas holiday) then when sch re-open, you need to bring for 2 months.
Many Thanks for your clear explanation!!
Soooooo Sorry .Just some more queries.. :-
Each course(equivalent to one module) consists of 16 lessons and each time 2 lessons will be conducted together (3 hrs with 15min break)? Hence the course duration is 2 months?
How big is each class? Any training materials given? Any homework? Can bring the assessment test worksheet back home for parent to re-test the kid on a regular basis? Any review or follow-up for each enrolled student? E.g. after 3 months, the graduated kid really cannot remember / apply what he had learnt, can seek them for further support/advice from the trainer.
How long is the parent course and how many sessions are there? Any one-to-one parent-meeting feedback session on the kid progress?
One course is 16 lessons = 4 months. In this course, there are maybe 8 - 10 modules, one module = 1 method. They also have twice weekly course = 2 months, for those living nearby (ie Toa Payoh).
Why call module? Because it is not one lesson the children can master it. So one module could be 2 - 3 lessons.
I can't remember the class size, maybe around 20. No training materials. No homework. Assessment done in class would not be given back until the end together with summary result and certificate at the end of the course. But you would be able to see your child's work when he/she bring home that lesson's exercise. No review after 3 months. We as parents have to help the child to actively use the methods learnt.
The parent course is 3-4 hours and only 1 session. One to one parent-teacher feedback is as and when you like it. But it is usually after the class ends.
I do admit it is very expensive. But if it can help to up the child's sch grades through learning the effective way and in shorter time, give it a try if you can afford it.
You are indeed very very nice and helpful .
A Big Thank You for helping me clear all my doubts about MindChamps.
Will consider about it. Not easy to convince hubby about this. Will try....
hi all mummies,
can i join this thread? hope to get some opinion from more experienced mums. I have a girl who was born in April 1999 and a boy born March 2002.
Have anyone here enrol your kids in The Learning Lab? Wanted to send my girl there next year for science enrichment programme. Any recommendation for science enrichment programme other than Learning Lab?
i am also looking for creative writing programme, any recommendation?
you can also join us in the 2002 thread
The following centres conduct creative writing lessons.
Thinking Plus http://www.thinking-plus.com
Thinking Plus also offers an analysis/profile of your child's learning style.
Hess Education Ctr http://www.hess.com.sg
Jan & Elly http://www.jan-elly.com
Any centre around CCK that you know of? Thinking Plus & Hess location not suitable. Jan Elly & Lorna Whiston good and expensive.
hi mummies, i'm relatively new in this forum, I'm hoping to get some ideas on sch holidays prog...my son is P1, what does yr child usually do during Nov/Dec hols? thinking of letting him learn how to play tennis. any lobang?
thanks for the infomation about MindChamp, i am going to enrol her today. the final examinations were just over, i think she is not doing well cos she got lots of careless mistakes and she is too rely on tuitions. i can't provide her with every tuition when she moves to the higher level.
btw, have anyone here heard about Six Thinking Hats? i am thinking of enrolling her for this holiday camp, any feedback?
I have friends send their kids to this 6 Thinking Hats and heard it was good. I am actually planning to send my boy for this December 3 days course.
Where is the 3-days for the 6 Thinking Hats held? What about the fees? Suitable for what age range?
There are 2 dates available for Six Thinking Hats Holiday Programme for Students in Dec. I was looking at 12-14 Dec cos is a 3 full day course.
You might want to visit their website:
Hope this helps!
thanks for the feedback
thanks for the link... will consider Jan & Elly
Jan & Elly has holiday programmes?
i don't know whether Jan & Elly has holoday programmes. i am looking for a regular creative writing class.
I think it is good but expensive.
Any recommendation for P3 science? (I mean workbook for practise purposes)
i send my kids for tuition at a nearby neighbourhood tuition centre but the teachers are very interesting and my child who usually hates going to school looks forward to tuition every week..
it's at blk 707 choa chu kang ..number to call is 93277010
Anyone has any lobang for P3- English Enrichment at east area.
My son has tried Enopi, Kumon but his results are still no good. tks
You may want to try Learning Point. They have a branch at Eastpoint Mall. My son joins them since P1.
how's your son doing since joining learning point? as my son is very weak in his compo, compre, but i guess learning point they spilt the 2 courses and also what abt the class size . As my boy always day dreaming..
My son is doing very well in Learning Point. They teach everything in one course but emphasize more on compo and compre. The class size is abt 10-12.
I am from the Aug08 MTB thread. Sorry to interrupt but my friend who wks in a market research company is urgently looking for a mother aged between 25-45 with a child in Pri 1-4 for a survey. The mother will be paid $70 and the group survey will be held on 1 April, tuesday at 6.45pm. If keen, pls PM me.
ok tks, in that case i'll call them to find out more details. V. worried... as my son's exam is approaching..
I can understand your worries, same here. Whenever my son has exams, I always can't sleep well, especially when he started P1. Gradually I try to relax a bit, don't put so much stress on myself.
Always remember grade is not the most thing to look for in your child, we also need to teach them to grow up with right values and attitude and other area like social skills, EQ etc..so relax and enjoy the growing up journey with your child.
it's been a loooonnnnggg time since i last come to this thread.
can i just ask, is it true that if a child fails his chinese, he can still proceed? means he can still go on to Pr4, Pr5 and so on? What about after pri sch? same as in sec & jc?
my boy still can't cope wif chinese
any advise? TIA!
Yes, he will still proceed to the next level. The school had also segregated those students with good CL grade and those weaker ones. Dont be dishearted, my son failed his Chinese when he is in Pr 3. And now he is in Pr 5. He passed his P4 CL as well as P5 SA1.
my son fail in Pr2 and half of Pr3 liao.... praying hard he can clear the later half
RJJ, what subjects did your son fail? you might wish to check with his teacher in school whether he's listening in class or daydreaming... and whether the school is doing anything to help him.
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