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Hi ladies, would like to ask if anyone have endometriosis (or history of it) n have BFP?

I juz failed my 2nd cycle.. 1st cycle no implantation. 2nd cycle got hcg of 40 then fall subsequently.

Then i suddenly remember one of my previous gynae who removed my endometriosis said it will affect chances of pregnancy. Cos it is like some toxicity..

So wondering if anyone can share advices.. Thanks
 


Hi ladies, would like to ask if anyone have endometriosis (or history of it) n have BFP?

I juz failed my 2nd cycle.. 1st cycle no implantation. 2nd cycle got hcg of 40 then fall subsequently.

Then i suddenly remember one of my previous gynae who removed my endometriosis said it will affect chances of pregnancy. Cos it is like some toxicity..

So wondering if anyone can share advices.. Thanks
Hi Rac_bow. I do not have personal experience to share but came across this post by a doctor addressing exactly the qns you have asked -"How Does Endometriosis Compromise Fertility, How Should it be Treated and What is the Role of IVF?". I think it is worth a read.
Link - http://haveababy.com/fertility-info...uld-it-be-treated-and-what-is-the-role-of-ivf
All the best. Jia you ya!
 
hello sistas, just wondering if i only have 3 follicles of 16mm does that mean only 3 eggs? the rest is less than 12..
Hi Kissryl. No, the smaller ones also have eggs just still smaller (follicles are rarely mostly empty) and hope they catch up in size with the bigger ones in time so that more eggs can be adequately mature by the trigger jab. The smaller the follicle size especially below 18mm BY the time of the trigger jab, the higher the likelihood that they cannot mature enough. Very small eggs are harder to retrieve and hence the lower number of eggs retrieved than follicle count sometimes account for 'empty follicle syndrome'.
How many days are you in your stim period? Follicle growth usually start slow and speed up at later stage. Continue protein rich foods, healthy balanced meals, adequate hydration & rest, try to keep stress at bay and have faith. Rooting for you! Jia you!
 
I'll take note if i experience same cos i am about 2wks into dhea.
Thanks for sharing.
Patn dear, I asked Dr Loh about such case. If it is clearly more hair loss than usually normal, it could indicate excess of the hormones which may be increased under the influence of DHEA. He also said that for some patients who experience hair loss as a side effect, the hair loss can be quite severe but still depends on individual. When side effects are encountered, DHEA supplemention may not be suitable. Advice is to stop DHEA and the side effect should go away otherwise should consult doctor to identify exact cause. Hope all's going well for you.
 
Patn dear, I asked Dr Loh about such case. If it is clearly more hair loss than usually normal, it could indicate excess of the hormones which may be increased under the influence of DHEA. He also said that for some patients who experience hair loss as a side effect, the hair loss can be quite severe but still depends on individual. When side effects are encountered, DHEA supplemention may not be suitable. Advice is to stop DHEA and the side effect should go away otherwise should consult doctor to identify exact cause. Hope all's going well for you.

Hi DawnBB sister, thanks for remembering my query. :) Yes i did in fact starting to see more hair dropping when shampooing and while waiting for it to dry. I was thinking the other night if i shd just take 1 capsule instead of 2.
Do you have hair loss issue?
 
Had my BT done today after a long 2ww. Told myself to stay positive no matter wat the outcome would be.

Lucky me, my show hand of 10 embryos to culture to D5 blastocyst paid off with 2 embies to do ET. Had a +ve reading of the hcg BT.

1st appt scheduled on the 09Dec with Dr Tan HH from Kkh , still a long way to go. Will stay positive and strong no matter wat happens.

Baby dust ✨✨ to all the Sistas out there. Praying hard that my bb(s) would stay strong and stick firming at the right position. 加油⛽️ To all the sistas out there.
 
Hi ladies, would like to ask if anyone have endometriosis (or history of it) n have BFP?

I juz failed my 2nd cycle.. 1st cycle no implantation. 2nd cycle got hcg of 40 then fall subsequently.

Then i suddenly remember one of my previous gynae who removed my endometriosis said it will affect chances of pregnancy. Cos it is like some toxicity..

So wondering if anyone can share advices.. Thanks
Hi, I feel u... I went through 4 fresh cycles and did not succeed. In addition, I have male factor. Having a baby is something so so difficult, like impossible for me and my DH.
 
Hi DawnBB sister, thanks for remembering my query. :) Yes i did in fact starting to see more hair dropping when shampooing and while waiting for it to dry. I was thinking the other night if i shd just take 1 capsule instead of 2.
Do you have hair loss issue?
No I didn't have hair loss or any other side effect. But when initially I tried to take 3x25mg the dosage rec for advanced age, I don't feel good, can't sleep well when I don't usually have sleeping issues. However when I keep to 2x25mg, seems no issue. I didn't ask Dr Loh if cutting down to 1x25mg helps though.
 
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Had my BT done today after a long 2ww. Told myself to stay positive no matter wat the outcome would be.

Lucky me, my show hand of 10 embryos to culture to D5 blastocyst paid off with 2 embies to do ET. Had a +ve reading of the hcg BT.

1st appt scheduled on the 09Dec with Dr Tan HH from Kkh , still a long way to go. Will stay positive and strong no matter wat happens.

Baby dust ✨✨ to all the Sistas out there. Praying hard that my bb(s) would stay strong and stick firming at the right position. 加油⛽️ To all the sistas out there.
Congrats! Grabbing your bb dusts!
All the best and hope you enjoy a smooth preggy journey! Jia you! :)
 
Hi Rac_bow. I do not have personal experience to share but came across this post by a doctor addressing exactly the qns you have asked -"How Does Endometriosis Compromise Fertility, How Should it be Treated and What is the Role of IVF?". I think it is worth a read.
Link - http://haveababy.com/fertility-info...uld-it-be-treated-and-what-is-the-role-of-ivf
All the best. Jia you ya!
Hi, I also read the link, thanks for posting. The information in the link is so depressing... Haiz....
 
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Thanks dear... but i think i read before... soya milk n diary stuff is not good for implantation...is it true??
 
Hi Kissryl. No, the smaller ones also have eggs just still smaller (follicles are rarely mostly empty) and hope they catch up in size with the bigger ones in time so that more eggs can be adequately mature by the trigger jab. The smaller the follicle size especially below 18mm BY the time of the trigger jab, the higher the likelihood that they cannot mature enough. Very small eggs are harder to retrieve and hence the lower number of eggs retrieved than follicle count sometimes account for 'empty follicle syndrome'.
How many days are you in your stim period? Follicle growth usually start slow and speed up at later stage. Continue protein rich foods, healthy balanced meals, adequate hydration & rest, try to keep stress at bay and have faith. Rooting for you! Jia you!
thanks @DawnBB for the always detailed explanation and for clearing my doubts!! i'd want to gv u a kiss if i can. haha. <3
im in my 11th day and sun will be my trigger jab.. lining 9.2 triple not sure what triple means. lol.
only 3 follicles of 16mm, 1 of 14.5 and 5 to 6 others less than 12mm.
fingers crossed!! :D
 
Congrats baby1979! Enjoy the smooth journey!
Grabbing your baby dusts!!!

Had my BT done today after a long 2ww. Told myself to stay positive no matter wat the outcome would be.

Lucky me, my show hand of 10 embryos to culture to D5 blastocyst paid off with 2 embies to do ET. Had a +ve reading of the hcg BT.

1st appt scheduled on the 09Dec with Dr Tan HH from Kkh , still a long way to go. Will stay positive and strong no matter wat happens.

Baby dust ✨✨ to all the Sistas out there. Praying hard that my bb(s) would stay strong and stick firming at the right position. 加油⛽️ To all the sistas out there.
 
No I didn't have hair loss or any other side effect. But when initially I tried to take 3x25mg the dosage for rec for advanced age, I don't feel good, can't sleep well when I don't usually have sleeping issues. However when I keep to 2x25mg, seems no issue. I didn't ask Dr Loh if cutting down to 1x25mg helps though.

I see. Maybe its excess for me. I'll ring Dr Loh tomorrow to ask if i can reduce.
Now I wish my AF to delay for 1 week... but spotting today. :(
 
Hi everybody! I'm new to this forum.
I just had my ET done yesterday at SGH. 2 embies transferred and BT on 9 Dec.

I realise I had some ginger shreds for lunch and for dinner last night. Had a fright that ginger causes uterine contractions which is bad for implantation. Is this true?
 
hello sistas, just wondering if i only have 3 follicles of 16mm does that mean only 3 eggs? the rest is less than 12..
Hi kissryl
Dun worry too much. Even if you are halfway thru stimm you still have the last leg, before the trigger shot, to grow the size.

4days (last leg) before trigger shot, i have had 5 follicles of which 2x14mm, 2x15mm and 1x17mm. I was very disappointed too with the size but in the end i have had 6 eggs collected where 3 were matured n fertilised and cleaved.

Growing more and big size follicles is 1thing, but most importantly that 1 or few eggs are good quality eggs.
 
Hi, I feel u... I went through 4 fresh cycles and did not succeed. In addition, I have male factor. Having a baby is something so so difficult, like impossible for me and my DH.

Hi tsf0205.. So ur doc got pinpoint endo as a contributing factor ?

I did removed a 5cm ovarian endo cyst b4 n the obvious impact i saw is vy low no of eggs retrieved fr that side.

Now it seem like it is not juz eggs, seem like the womb environment affected too..
 
Hi DawnBB sister, thanks for remembering my query. :) Yes i did in fact starting to see more hair dropping when shampooing and while waiting for it to dry. I was thinking the other night if i shd just take 1 capsule instead of 2.
Do you have hair loss issue?
Ya e hair drop when shampooing.

N on e house floor.

When stop,then e hair loss problem also stop
 
Hi everybody! I'm new to this forum.
I just had my ET done yesterday at SGH. 2 embies transferred and BT on 9 Dec.

I realise I had some ginger shreds for lunch and for dinner last night. Had a fright that ginger causes uterine contractions which is bad for implantation. Is this true?
Hello! Welcome to the forum. Don't stress k coz not good for you & your embies.
You mean those ginger that is usually added into chinese stir-fry dishes? In any case, I don't think we would eat ginger in such excessive amount that would cause any adverse effect. As I understand, ginger can help to expel coldness, dampness in our diet and our bodies too which is beneficial for women. Just take in moderation ba. I will also check with my TCM doc again on my next session on Monday and update if anything to be noted.
Stay positive, continue healthy balanced diet and talk to encourage your embies. All the best. Jia you!
 
So after stopping Dhea does it affect egg health?
No. Just as other supplements we take, DHEA supplementation is taken in hope to improve egg health in case of suitable conditions and no adverse side effects. If side effects indicate that it is not suitable, stopping doesn't degrade egg health from original condition, however I believe that continuing may actually adversely impact egg health in the long run.
DHEA is not the only option as a measure to improve health in case of aging factor, there are alternatives and most important is adopt those most suitable based on individual condition.
 
Hi, I also read the link, thanks for posting. The information in the link is so depressing... Haiz....
Sister, must always try to stay positive, don't be defeated before the fight. There is no death sentence here and it's the courage to go on that gives hope in this journey.
I believe that the more informed you are of your condition, the more empowered you are to advocate for your own interest and evaluate doctor's opinions. I also learned in my own journey that there are indeed different quality of doctors as well as different fertility expertise even among IVF specialist. I read that further surgeries to treat endo can be tricky so will be good to seek second/ alternative opinions and suss out the expert doc who gives you the most confidence in helping you on this journey given your specific condition.
It's daunting and I feel you as I also went through repeated failures. Although no guarantee, yet still have to persevere on because I'm not ready to give up now. Just do your best and hope for the best, then no regrets.
 
Hi kissryl
Dun worry too much. Even if you are halfway thru stimm you still have the last leg, before the trigger shot, to grow the size.

4days (last leg) before trigger shot, i have had 5 follicles of which 2x14mm, 2x15mm and 1x17mm. I was very disappointed too with the size but in the end i have had 6 eggs collected where 3 were matured n fertilised and cleaved.

Growing more and big size follicles is 1thing, but most importantly that 1 or few eggs are good quality eggs.
thanks @patn!! both u and dawnbb very encouraging! shall pray hard for the golden embbies! very greedy with the ies. haha. :p
 
Sister, must always try to stay positive, don't be defeated before the fight. There is no death sentence here and it's the courage to go on that gives hope in this journey.
I believe that the more informed you are of your condition, the more empowered you are to advocate for your own interest and evaluate doctor's opinions. I also learned in my own journey that there are indeed different quality of doctors as well as different fertility expertise even among IVF specialist. I read that further surgeries to treat endo can be tricky so will be good to seek second/ alternative opinions and suss out the expert doc who gives you the most confidence in helping you on this journey given your specific condition.
It's daunting and I feel you as I also went through repeated failures. Although no guarantee, yet still have to persevere on because I'm not ready to give up now. Just do your best and hope for the best, then no regrets.
Tsf,i agree that stay positive very important. Negativity n stress is very detrimental to health n mind. I am trying to stay positive too. Its difficult i know. But i guess that is just so much that we can do. N negative n stress makes thgs worse
So tell yrself to let these negivitiy n stress stay away from you. Jiayou!
 
Hi tsf0205.. So ur doc got pinpoint endo as a contributing factor ?

I did removed a 5cm ovarian endo cyst b4 n the obvious impact i saw is vy low no of eggs retrieved fr that side.

Now it seem like it is not juz eggs, seem like the womb environment affected too..
I removed a 6cm endo cyst last year. After tat, all my Ivf not responsive... Problem is obvious. Me and my DH.
 
No. Just as other supplements we take, DHEA supplementation is taken in hope to improve egg health in case of suitable conditions and no adverse side effects. If side effects indicate that it is not suitable, stopping doesn't degrade egg health from original condition, however I believe that continuing may actually adversely impact egg health in the long run.
DHEA is not the only option as a measure to improve health in case of aging factor, there are alternatives and most important is adopt those most suitable based on individual condition.

Oh ok.. i thought the health would be affected once stopped since i had been religiously taking it for 3wks.
Thanks again DawnBB! Appreciate you taken so much of your time helping us with our worries n queries! Hugz..
Btw are you currently in cycle?
 
Hello want to ask, for those of you who insert utrogestron into vagina, if you push as deep as into g-spot there (bottom wall of cervix), will you feel a harden part on the opposite wall meaning roof of cervix? Not sure issit i never paid attention but i thought i felt a harder part tonite. Wonder if i shd worry. Cervical cancer ???

5 more days to BT. I am suddenly having back aches and tenderness of the womb.
 
Think u call up dr loh to check before u stop. Since u on it for 3 weeks le. A bit wasted. See wat he says first before u decide.

I was on it for 2 weeks and side effects came.
Did dr loh ask you to continue in lower dosage or stop completely?
I was thinking like wasted too and intend to call dr loh tml but depending on my marketing since my in laws are coming so gott prepare meals. Else i would continue until i get his instruction on Monday morning.
 
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thanks @patn!! both u and dawnbb very encouraging! shall pray hard for the golden embbies! very greedy with the ies. haha. :p
Haha... no worries @kissryl
I'm very happy to find support here and would love to share my experience if can help and learn from the rest here.
Maybe next time when my cycle starts i become very anxious and who knows you could be encouraging me n others ladies here... :)
 
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Oh ok.. i thought the health would be affected once stopped since i had been religiously taking it for 3wks.
Thanks again DawnBB! Appreciate you taken so much of your time helping us with our worries n queries! Hugz..
Btw are you currently in cycle?
Yup on medicated FET cycle. Waiting for FET hopefully all goes well. Rooting for embies to survive, grow & fight on with me. Hope for the best ba! Fighting!
 
Hello! Welcome to the forum. Don't stress k coz not good for you & your embies.
You mean those ginger that is usually added into chinese stir-fry dishes? In any case, I don't think we would eat ginger in such excessive amount that would cause any adverse effect. As I understand, ginger can help to expel coldness, dampness in our diet and our bodies too which is beneficial for women. Just take in moderation ba. I will also check with my TCM doc again on my next session on Monday and update if anything to be noted.
Stay positive, continue healthy balanced diet and talk to encourage your embies. All the best. Jia you!
My hub bought gyoza n it came with 2 packs of ginger and vinegar. I ate up the ginger. Then next day, mil put ginger in the mee sua n a small saucer of fried one cos she knows i love ginger. I ate them up too.

Dawn bb, are u seeing tan siew buoy? Im going to her this noon.
Monday gt a blood test. Not sure what they r testing. I told them i felt bloated for 2 days b4 my ET. Dr checked for water but said Im fine.
 
Hi ladies, am here to spread baby dusts to you all! Had my BT on Tues (12dp3dt) but beta level was only 64.1. Went for another 2 BT to confirm...

Thurs (14dp3dt) - 154.4
Today (16dp3dt) - 346.8

Just a question.. i was with NUH. For those who were with kkh, how many days past transfer then u all will be require to do the BT? Cus i know for kkh requirement, the safe level would be around 250?
 
Hi ladies, am here to spread baby dusts to you all! Had my BT on Tues (12dp3dt) but beta level was only 64.1. Went for another 2 BT to confirm...

Thurs (14dp3dt) - 154.4
Today (16dp3dt) - 346.8

Just a question.. i was with NUH. For those who were with kkh, how many days past transfer then u all will be require to do the BT? Cus i know for kkh requirement, the safe level would be around 250?
Congrats! Your beta numbers are increasing fine so the first reading doesn't matter that much now. Take care & enjoy your preggy journey!
Grabbing your bb dusts. Jia you mummy!
 
Hi ladies, am here to spread baby dusts to you all! Had my BT on Tues (12dp3dt) but beta level was only 64.1. Went for another 2 BT to confirm...

Thurs (14dp3dt) - 154.4
Today (16dp3dt) - 346.8

Just a question.. i was with NUH. For those who were with kkh, how many days past transfer then u all will be require to do the BT? Cus i know for kkh requirement, the safe level would be around 250?

Kkh should be day 18. As long as numbers double up should be fine.
 
My hub bought gyoza n it came with 2 packs of ginger and vinegar. I ate up the ginger. Then next day, mil put ginger in the mee sua n a small saucer of fried one cos she knows i love ginger. I ate them up too.

Dawn bb, are u seeing tan siew buoy? Im going to her this noon.
Monday gt a blood test. Not sure what they r testing. I told them i felt bloated for 2 days b4 my ET. Dr checked for water but said Im fine.
I'm with Dr Seah at Thomson TCM. I have read good reviews on Tan Siew Buoy too. I do think the ginger you took is fine. Since you seeing dr tan you can ask her. Don't worry too much k. Jia you.
 
Yup on medicated FET cycle. Waiting for FET hopefully all goes well. Rooting for embies to survive, grow & fight on with me. Hope for the best ba! Fighting!

Somehow i always get excited when i know someone is in cycle hahaha..
Hope to hear continuous good news from you ! Embbies be strong!!
 


Seems like lotsa good news lately! :)
Congratulations @juniorlim and enjoy a smooth pregnancy!
Grabbing your baby dusts!

Hi ladies, am here to spread baby dusts to you all! Had my BT on Tues (12dp3dt) but beta level was only 64.1. Went for another 2 BT to confirm...

Thurs (14dp3dt) - 154.4
Today (16dp3dt) - 346.8

Just a question.. i was with NUH. For those who were with kkh, how many days past transfer then u all will be require to do the BT? Cus i know for kkh requirement, the safe level would be around 250?
 

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