Hugs mqiu. Like other sisters said here, request for another scan next week.Wenrt for scan and saw nothing, even with vaginal. Likely ectopic. Devastated
Hugs mqiu. Like other sisters said here, request for another scan next week.Wenrt for scan and saw nothing, even with vaginal. Likely ectopic. Devastated
thank u jumbo girl for the info. i will slowly find out more . thanks yaI understand how U feel especially with our age we can't afford to slowly try again n again. Safe fertility in bkk is very famous for pgd testing and they have many international patient. TMC kL n sunfert kl also do pgd n many Singaporean did there. Anyway hope u don't have to go through this route. All the best for your FET. Every embryo is diff so U never know this cycle may be the one for U.
mqiu u r at whc stage of the pregnancy ? if 6 weeks mayb stil bit early to see .7th week wil be more accurate . when u said saw nothing ,did u mean see no sac, see no yolk sac or see no heartbeat?all the best and prayWenrt for scan and saw nothing, even with vaginal. Likely ectopic. Devastated
I googled bangkok ivf sg.. there will be articles already
There's a good one in KL. My gf succeeded twice in her 2 attempts despite countless failure in SG. Her gynae in Mt e recommended. Google for dato Colin clinic in KL. She flies that in morning then come bk same day after scan or medication. She only stayed there for 2 wks after ER and ET. There's accommodation opp the clinic. They will assist of u ask.
I understand how U feel especially with our age we can't afford to slowly try again n again. Safe fertility in bkk is very famous for pgd testing and they have many international patient. TMC kL n sunfert kl also do pgd n many Singaporean did there. Anyway hope u don't have to go through this route. All the best for your FET. Every embryo is diff so U never know this cycle may be the one for U.
Thanks all. Appreciate it. Im scheduled for another scan next week cos doc didnt see anything at all inside the uterus. Hopefully cos too early but nothing on vaginal either so I dun dare to have much hopemqiu, all the best, hope u see something on your next scanning . if they cannot see anything they shd immediately scan the surrounding for ectopic already.
mqiu u r at whc stage of the pregnancy ? if 6 weeks mayb stil bit early to see .7th week wil be more accurate . when u said saw nothing ,did u mean see no sac, see no yolk sac or see no heartbeat?all the best and pray
Easiest way is go for blood tests... for ectopic the hcg will not double as fast as healthy pregsThanks all. Appreciate it. Im scheduled for another scan next week cos doc didnt see anything at all inside the uterus. Hopefully cos too early but nothing on vaginal either so I dun dare to have much hope
Sound advice. Is it possible for me to go to kkh, gp or polyclinic to do such a blood test?Easiest way is go for blood tests... for ectopic the hcg will not double as fast as healthy pregs
private might be easier and faster as the result is available at 1pm if you do the bloodtest in morning. you can just walk in and mention that you think you are pregnant and want a hcg blood test. abt 150 - 200 for privateSound advice. Is it possible for me to go to kkh, gp or polyclinic to do such a blood test?
Who is ur dr? Usually he or she would order those tests for u... if he didn't just tell him u wanna do it.Sound advice. Is it possible for me to go to kkh, gp or polyclinic to do such a blood test?
Thanks all. Appreciate it. Im scheduled for another scan next week cos doc didnt see anything at all inside the uterus. Hopefully cos too early but nothing on vaginal either so I dun dare to have much hope
Who is ur dr? Usually he or she would order those tests for u... if he didn't just tell him u wanna do it.
Thanks maybe will ask for blood test next week when I see my doc. If I can last that long haha.Hi mqiu.. I had 2 ectopic b4..
So just to share .. General guideline.. If your hcg is above 1000 or 1500 (diff doc use diff cutoff) , should expect to see something in uterus. So if yours is still below this number , there is still hope..
anyone tot of going overseas to do ivf? thinking of doing so if my next cycle fail again. only doing overseas can i be sure of putting in good quality embryos.singapore doesnt allow genetic testings and i dunno how many failures i can afford before i am lucky enuf to put in a normal embryo. at my age even blastocyst also can turned out to be defective ones. this new virtus fertility centre kind of mislead people into thinking that they r able to help u do the test by doing it in australia.i called them to ask and they said they are finding ways to do it but nothing concrete or confirmed yet. then y put in their website saying 'if u choose to undertake a PGD procedure, your embryos wil b tested at our internationally recognised PGD progm in australia. PGD is offerd in conjunction with an ivf cycle' .so angry. i feedback to them and they said they wil look into having a bettr explantion in their website.chey...
I'm back.. if some of you could rem me being here early jan 15. I have 2 failed iuis and i failed ivf in Dec 14. Booked my 2nd cycle in apr in kkh. I'm not sure is it good idea to totally give up of conceiving and move on. I feel cos my infertility, I'm stuck here in my life. I'm hoping to resign from my current job cos no prospects at all but bcos of my ivf I got to hold back till Aug. I'm reaching 40 this Aug. I know I only failed one ivf cycle but day to day, my mind is very taxing over it. I find life is not as meaningful like before when I haven started my conception journey. I find it very difficult to share my true jealousy feelings even to my closest friend and sis. Maybe its my pride. Every thing keeps bottling up. Recently, i saw 1 of my fbk friend posted and complained that she often needed to demand ppl to offer her the priority seat. When I read it, i feel frustrated. I know she did nothing wrong as a matter of fact. But my jealous feelings activated again. I think my over thinking is getting control over my emotions. To add on to my stress, me and hubby are also trying naturally but almost 50% if the time, my husband can't get it long enough to be successful. I was like .. the chance jus slipped off like that. He's healthy but we aren't sure if it's his psychologically or hidden issue with him physically.
Haiz.. feel better.
Hugs... I understand how u feel. I been thru almost all the same crap as u.I'm back.. if some of you could rem me being here early jan 15. I have 2 failed iuis and i failed ivf in Dec 14. Booked my 2nd cycle in apr in kkh. I'm not sure is it good idea to totally give up of conceiving and move on. I feel cos my infertility, I'm stuck here in my life. I'm hoping to resign from my current job cos no prospects at all but bcos of my ivf I got to hold back till Aug. I'm reaching 40 this Aug. I know I only failed one ivf cycle but day to day, my mind is very taxing over it. I find life is not as meaningful like before when I haven started my conception journey. I find it very difficult to share my true jealousy feelings even to my closest friend and sis. Maybe its my pride. Every thing keeps bottling up. Recently, i saw 1 of my fbk friend posted and complained that she often needed to demand ppl to offer her the priority seat. When I read it, i feel frustrated. I know she did nothing wrong as a matter of fact. But my jealous feelings activated again. I think my over thinking is getting control over my emotions. To add on to my stress, me and hubby are also trying naturally but almost 50% if the time, my husband can't get it long enough to be successful. I was like .. the chance jus slipped off like that. He's healthy but we aren't sure if it's his psychologically or hidden issue with him physically.
Haiz.. feel better.
I assume u mean ivf cycle. I believe slow jog or brisk walk are totally safe. Cramping possible is ur af coming soon? Don't run too fast or do anything strenuous
I don't think there is a 'fixed' time but really up to your comfort level. Just listen to your body.
For me, after bfn (AF), I had bad cramps for first 5 days and I couldn't exercise. Then after that I felt I was up for yoga and brisk walking. Then recently (day 7) I think I 'over-did' some of the yoga poses and felt some cramps , so I immediately stop and did some light stretching instead. Today (day8) I feel fine again.
Littlejo, I can feel you. Had the same problem with hubby. I even arrange for him to see urologist but doc say he is ok. It's psychological effect. The performance anxiety. So now I don't tell hubby that it's the day. I just have to try and initiate. Like remembeRainbow, I also felt happier during ivf than trying natural cos it's stressful and worst when he gets his performance anxiety, it ended up being unsuccessful and both of us ended up upset. Now at least try natural or getting intimate is not so stressful.I'm back.. if some of you could rem me being here early jan 15. I have 2 failed iuis and i failed ivf in Dec 14. Booked my 2nd cycle in apr in kkh. I'm not sure is it good idea to totally give up of conceiving and move on. I feel cos my infertility, I'm stuck here in my life. I'm hoping to resign from my current job cos no prospects at all but bcos of my ivf I got to hold back till Aug. I'm reaching 40 this Aug. I know I only failed one ivf cycle but day to day, my mind is very taxing over it. I find life is not as meaningful like before when I haven started my conception journey. I find it very difficult to share my true jealousy feelings even to my closest friend and sis. Maybe its my pride. Every thing keeps bottling up. Recently, i saw 1 of my fbk friend posted and complained that she often needed to demand ppl to offer her the priority seat. When I read it, i feel frustrated. I know she did nothing wrong as a matter of fact. But my jealous feelings activated again. I think my over thinking is getting control over my emotions. To add on to my stress, me and hubby are also trying naturally but almost 50% if the time, my husband can't get it long enough to be successful. I was like .. the chance jus slipped off like that. He's healthy but we aren't sure if it's his psychologically or hidden issue with him physically.
Haiz.. feel better.
Jus had my first scan after 8 days stim. Before Stim start saw 8 folicles, after Stim start only 4 follicles... Haiz. So sad. 3rd fresh liao... I guess no frozen again... Jus hope quality is good. Quality more impt than quantity...
Try to get some hobbies and focus on somethings u like to do tgt with hb rather than make ur life abt ttc. Easier said than done I know. But gotta make effort. Go on holiday. Take up a new hobby or sport. Anything that require ur focus and attention so u stop dwelling so much.Littlejo, I can feel you. Had the same problem with hubby. I even arrange for him to see urologist but doc say he is ok. It's psychological effect. The performance anxiety. So now I don't tell hubby that it's the day. I just have to try and initiate. Like remembeRainbow, I also felt happier during ivf than trying natural cos it's stressful and worst when he gets his performance anxiety, it ended up being unsuccessful and both of us ended up upset. Now at least try natural or getting intimate is not so stressful.
There are a lot of people out there who always make remarks that sound insensitive. If u feel u need time alone, just be kind to yourself and walk away. What u see on facebook maybe just quickly scroll through.. Dun read in details.
U can come here to rant, we will provide listening ear.
According to statistics, obesity is one of the contributing factors... However, I do see obese people getting pregnant. I think it is more on individual condition...can i check does obese make it hard.
Tv ch 5 is showing fertility show now-body n soul. Dr loh is invited to e show lol
hopeful78, Dr Y can help us seek moh approval meh? she asked me to appeal so that more voices are heard and hopefully one day MOH will approve. but she said no one succeeded before ley, unless if that person has a serious illness like cancer . pls tell me more if u knw of ways to appeal or heard of anyone doing that succcessfully.I can totally understand how u feel.. Totally support decision if u can find a gd clinic in KL or BKK to do it.
It's just too painful to go thru the chromosome story for me.. To be honest I have quite gd IVF cycles. But the pain of going thru the loss aft a bfp is worst than failing a cycle. I still have 3 more frozen. N depending on how this pregnancy goes, I will request dr Yu for a PGD approval from MOH. If it's rejected I will prob discard the 3 snow babies cux it's just too painful to go thru any possible losses.
hugz little jo, i also knw hw u feel....becos of ivf, i put my job on hold , to rest my body to ensure it has best chance for bfp.morale becme damn low with no job satisfaction and spending power also lower. no regrets though as money and job can wait, my body clock cannt wait and starting a family is my top priority.I'm back.. if some of you could rem me being here early jan 15. I have 2 failed iuis and i failed ivf in Dec 14. Booked my 2nd cycle in apr in kkh. I'm not sure is it good idea to totally give up of conceiving and move on. I feel cos my infertility, I'm stuck here in my life. I'm hoping to resign from my current job cos no prospects at all but bcos of my ivf I got to hold back till Aug. I'm reaching 40 this Aug. I know I only failed one ivf cycle but day to day, my mind is very taxing over it. I find life is not as meaningful like before when I haven started my conception journey. I find it very difficult to share my true jealousy feelings even to my closest friend and sis. Maybe its my pride. Every thing keeps bottling up. Recently, i saw 1 of my fbk friend posted and complained that she often needed to demand ppl to offer her the priority seat. When I read it, i feel frustrated. I know she did nothing wrong as a matter of fact. But my jealous feelings activated again. I think my over thinking is getting control over my emotions. To add on to my stress, me and hubby are also trying naturally but almost 50% if the time, my husband can't get it long enough to be successful. I was like .. the chance jus slipped off like that. He's healthy but we aren't sure if it's his psychologically or hidden issue with him physically.
Haiz.. feel better.
thank u jklim, long time no see u in this forum. i used to read your postings when i was stil a silent reader and gained alot of knowledge from all that u have shared .i know u have stopped wanting to try for another kid liao, thanks for dropping by .take care!There's a good one in KL. My gf succeeded twice in her 2 attempts despite countless failure in SG. Her gynae in Mt e recommended. Google for dato Colin clinic in KL. She flies that in morning then come bk same day after scan or medication. She only stayed there for 2 wks after ER and ET. There's accommodation opp the clinic. They will assist of u ask.
india?!! erm....no thank u hahahaaMe! OA i ever considered KL even! Or india! But the thought is so daunting with no friends no family.
babyloveyou, DE as in germany?can share wat did your dr say abt the pros of doing ivf in bkk and DE?thnksYes my doc suggested doing in BKK or DE if still do in SG for me for higher success rate.
hopeful78, Dr Y can help us seek moh approval meh? she asked me to appeal so that more voices are heard and hopefully one day MOH will approve. but she said no one succeeded before ley, unless if that person has a serious illness like cancer . pls tell me more if u knw of ways to appeal or heard of anyone doing that succcessfully.
I understand the pain of the loss aftr bpf..it cuts like a knife..
u stil have 3 frozen and that is one gd news ley.
dont discard the 3 frozen embryos la..keep keep first
Totally understand....but dun lose hope. I gave up when I failed my fresh ivf with 2 fet in 06 when age 33. Then in 14, saw successful cases from friend and colleagues who did ivf in kk so I tried and did ET in jan 15. Now I am 8th week preggy at age 41! So dun lose hope.I'm back.. if some of you could rem me being here early jan 15. I have 2 failed iuis and i failed ivf in Dec 14. Booked my 2nd cycle in apr in kkh. I'm not sure is it good idea to totally give up of conceiving and move on. I feel cos my infertility, I'm stuck here in my life. I'm hoping to resign from my current job cos no prospects at all but bcos of my ivf I got to hold back till Aug. I'm reaching 40 this Aug. I know I only failed one ivf cycle but day to day, my mind is very taxing over it. I find life is not as meaningful like before when I haven started my conception journey. I find it very difficult to share my true jealousy feelings even to my closest friend and sis. Maybe its my pride. Every thing keeps bottling up. Recently, i saw 1 of my fbk friend posted and complained that she often needed to demand ppl to offer her the priority seat. When I read it, i feel frustrated. I know she did nothing wrong as a matter of fact. But my jealous feelings activated again. I think my over thinking is getting control over my emotions. To add on to my stress, me and hubby are also trying naturally but almost 50% if the time, my husband can't get it long enough to be successful. I was like .. the chance jus slipped off like that. He's healthy but we aren't sure if it's his psychologically or hidden issue with him physically.
Haiz.. feel better.
Oceandeep,i tried gonalf for 1st cycle n puregon for 2nd cycle. They are similar i think but gonalf works better for me. I yield more eggs(14) with 2 above avg quality with gonal f. Puregon 10 eggs no good quality. Both time injected with similar dosehi ladies,
Which stimulation drug is better? Puregon or gonal f? I searched the Internet and saw a few websites where they mentioned that puregon is more effective. I think my gynae's suggestion is gonal f. Can I request to change? Thanks.
Tsf0205, i totally can understand u...i was v upset n almost cried when the doctor told me "ur eggs are not growing as expected n we need to increase ur dosage" during my day 5 scan...n my hb oso tell me take it easy...sigh!!!Went to my tcm last night and told him on my day 8 scan results
Right : 9.5, 6, 5
Left : 12
He say... At most 2 eggs... So sad...
though it's still early and I know quality matters more than quantity. Somehow, I still felt really upset and cried.
Haiz... Hubby can't understand y I feel stress... Well, with a 3rd fresh and both of us with fertility problems, and still trying for a number 1... Sometimes it jus feels unfair... When u hear news of ppl abandoning babies... While we r struggling to just have 1....
jas249, u still can increase dose, can expect better result later.... I'm at the max dose and this is the result I'm getting...Tsf0205, i totally can understand u...i was v upset n almost cried when the doctor told me "ur eggs are not growing as expected n we need to increase ur dosage" during my day 5 scan...n my hb oso tell me take it easy...sigh!!!
Gal,try to relax first. Since there is nothing much to be done now. Stress will make it worse. Take a deep breathe n maybi focus thoughts on other things for the time being.jas249, u still can increase dose, can expect better result later.... I'm at the max dose and this is the result I'm getting...
Thank you tsf!1) BFP, 2 weeks time to scan for fetal pole
2) bfn: can be as long as 4 weeks later
Sound advice. Is it possible for me to go to kkh, gp or polyclinic to do such a blood test?
jas249, u still can increase dose, can expect better result later.... I'm at the max dose and this is the result I'm getting...
for me all my cycles use puregon ..last one cycle doc initially wanted gonf for me but I requested for puregon as I was familiar with the usage and he was fine with changing..hi ladies,
Which stimulation drug is better? Puregon or gonal f? I searched the Internet and saw a few websites where they mentioned that puregon is more effective. I think my gynae's suggestion is gonal f. Can I request to change? Thanks.
DE as in donor eggs. As my eggs are mostly dark and grainy according to her so its either I do overseas like BKK where they can do more tests on my eggs before ET or if I want to still do in SG, I can consider donor eggs but I have to find my own donor. Either way its more $$$.babyloveyou, DE as in germany?can share wat did your dr say abt the pros of doing ivf in bkk and DE?thnks
Went to my tcm last night and told him on my day 8 scan results
Right : 9.5, 6, 5
Left : 12
He say... At most 2 eggs... So sad...
though it's still early and I know quality matters more than quantity. Somehow, I still felt really upset and cried.
Haiz... Hubby can't understand y I feel stress... Well, with a 3rd fresh and both of us with fertility problems, and still trying for a number 1... Sometimes it jus feels unfair... When u hear news of ppl abandoning babies... While we r struggling to just have 1....
Ya lor but now noooooo!india?!! erm....no thank u hahahaa