Anyone with kids above 7 yrs with bedwetting problem?


Hi! My son is 7 this year and occasionally still wets his bed.. maybe once a month when he is very tired and drank too much water before bed. Is that a cause for concern?
 
I felt to help my son stop wetting the bed. He wet every single night until he was 8 years old.So I talked with him about using a bedwetting alarm.. And Now in less than 1.5 months he went from wet every single night to dry every single night. I found a lot of positive information about bedwetting alarm..
 
Hi All...

My son is with wearing pamper every night and he is 7 this yrs :(

I tried waking him up to go pee but this still do not help.


@DryBuddyEz - i think that monitor is quite expensive.

Hope to hear more from other mummies!!!

Thank you!!!
 
Bedwetting on a regular basis past the normal age can be an indication of emotional issues. Does he have other issues besides bedwetting e.g. behavioural?
 
Hi mrsgg... no emotional issue... probably you can list a few.
Day time he was diaper free when he was 3. Is only when night time. :(
 
Hmm... some examples include anxiety in certain situations, difficulty in anger management, lack of confidence observed in school, not being able to express his needs or feelings, stress from school/home, etc. But nothing has observed by family or teachers and all seems well with him, then bring to a doc to see if it could be a physical problem.

Btw, if bedwetting happens only occasionally, it's probably not a big deal. It's more of an issue if it happens regularly like every week.
 
Hi mrsgg... behaviors seems fine lei.. didn't see any of you mention. But i also think that i train him to late...

If he didn't wear diaper and i didnt wake him up to go toliet then he will wet himself every night :(

Can you share how you train your children?

Thank you!! :)
 
If he wets himself cos he wasn't woken up in the middle of the night for toilet, maybe it's just setting up a routine of letting him clear his bladder right before bedtime and setting the alarm clock at a fixed timing in the middle of the night so he will get used to waking up at tt time to go to the toilet on his own. Try it?
 
I was browsing thru the forum , came across the subject title and the topic brings me back to the time of my friend's son who seemed to have a bed-wetting issue for the longest time. Thing is, some people just don't bother that the problem is so great that it causes inconveniences to other people around them:( This boy is now a teenager, yet she never shared what was the underlying root issue that caused the bed-wetting in the first place.

I was just googling and yes! I have heard about the Bedwetting Alarm..it is like a behavioural therapy thing, xcept that this is an electronic device.

You may wanna read up on an alternative therapy treatment called, Craniosacral Therapy. Locally, there is a lady who operates from her home clinic in Simei and she can be found in www.craniosacraltherapysingapore.com'

She also has a FB page with loads of information
https://www.facebook.com/groups/adidacst/
https://www.facebook.com/groups/147558805425673/

This is a UK link with some info on bed-wetting - http://www.body-harmony.org/Cranio-Sacral-Therapy.html
 
Hi mar_mum2. I bring my child to KKH after reading the post from agnes. I didnt go polyclinic but make appt as private. Thus it will be more expensive. The doctor let me choose if I want to let my son to have medicine or use the the alarm. Quite similar as drybuddyez recommend, just that different brand. im still monitoring... my son still wet his daiper. :(
 
Hi... mar mum. This product work exactly the same thing I bought at KKH. You see if you can get someone to buy. I spent about 300 at KKH including consultation and this product. Is also so ex because I didnt go through polyclinics, if with subsidy it should be cheaper.


http://www.sleepdryalarm.com/
 
samanthab

how is the product in terms of functionality and effectiveness that you bought for your child?
Does it work, and how long does it take for the child to be independent from it?

Any other feedback and methods tried by other parents that work effectively?
 
Hi abbba,

Sorry for my late reply.

eh... not very useful. Your child is a boy or girl? This product works better for girl.
This alarm will ring when your child urine on it. That is why for boy is a bit difficult.

Hope this information help you :)
 
Samanthab,

You mentioned that u toilet train yr son late, that could be the reason why he is not used to waking up to pee. When did he stop using the diapers at night? Is it only recently he started wetting his bed ? My son is 7, he has been off the diapers since age 5. Initally, he does wet the bed, then he woke up to pee. You need to explain to yr son he has to wake up to pee, he needs to break the habit of peeing in his diapers. It is best you lay a waterproof mattress cover on top of his bed so that it is easier for u as u don't hv to wash his bed sheet.

Recently, my son has weak digestion n it caused to him to pee frequently at night n he woke up a few times at night to pee. After seeing chinese physician, he managed to sleep throughout the night. I think it is better to start training him to wake up to pee at night and also to empty his bladder before going to bed. Try training him first, it will take some time for him to adjust before ruling out if he has health or behaviour problem.

Hope my sharing helps.
 
pingping,

not sure what is your method of toilet training, or how it is implemented.
If the child is woken up by an adult on a regular basis every nite, then it is not the right method and not effective as the child doesn't or couldn't know about the urge or symptom on their own.

every child is different as some are very deep sleeper such that even when they wet the bed, they still sleep throughout the nite.
some child are more sensitive, they can get up when they felt the urge to pee.
Other possibilities are heredity and delayed development, or problem of hormone regulation etc.

So the purpose of the bed wetting alarm is to wake the child up on their own to know that they need to go to the toilet when they are urgent and in deep sleep. However, the method of implementing it differs from device to device.

Of course, there is also the medication method as well.

It is important to look at the root cause and implement the right method or form.
 
abbba,

FYI, I only need to wake up my son at night and tell him to pee for about a week, and he knows he need to wake up to pee. For my elder gal, I do not need to wake her up at all. I based on his dry diaper at night that it is a signal for him to be diaper free. However, there will still be times that he wets his bed which is a transition. For samanthab's son case, it is not normal for a 7 yr old to be in diapers at night, otherwise it will not be a concern for samanthab or other mothers hving the same problem. Kids can be trained, pls do not underestimate that. If a young child is not toilet trained early, do you think he will know that he does not need to wear diapers at night? During the transition period, it is not easy as there will be bed sheets to change and parents hv to wake up and attend to the child. Development delay might be the reason, but for a 7 year old child, he is old enough to understand that he needs to wake up and pee. Even if he makes a mistake for a few times, all he need is encouragement and patience from parents.

I am not sure abt the effectiveness of bed wetting alarm, but it seems to save the parents the trouble of attending to the child by waking the child to pee. During our times,we don't even need such devices to be toilet trained. A child needs to learn to wake up and pee, as long a child is in diaper at night, he will never know what is like when he wets himself. I don't think toilet training a kid has to be so complicated.
 
pingping,

Yes toilet trained means not having to wear diapers, as most kids are toilet trained from <1 year to >3 years old.
Of course, some are trained much older. Late training may not necessarily be the problem, but knowing the root cause is definitely important.

I agree that kids needs to be toilet trained, but a sample size of 2 children may not give you the full picture of the problems faced by other parents,
whereas I'm stating the facts based on more than 100+ cases as seen by KKH and other hospitals.

for your boy, what made it effective is he is able to tell the symptom and know the urge, and not simply because you woke him up for a week that made it effective. If he was not able to tell the symptom, then the continuous waking up at nite to "train" the child to pee will not solve the problem. Similarly for your girl. Of course, it is ok for the occasional accidents to happen, but what is important is the ability to know the symptom themselves rather than someone needing to inform them on a regular basis.

As stated, every child is different, so deep sleepers, development delay, heredity, hormone regulation etc are not a case of not being toilet trained.
Specialist and experts will tell you that asking a child to get up in the middle of the nite to go and pee, is not always an effective method as it doesn't cater to every different child, whereas if the child has the urge and need to pee, and gets up on their own, is the most effective way. So the problem needs to be looked into when the child still is not able to know the symptom at about 9 years of age latest.

That is the logic and reason why those bed wetting devices and medication are meant to help the child know the urge and symptoms of needing to get up to pee while they sleep. Of course, any other method that helps the child know the urge will help them as well.
This is the same for afternoon nap, which is usually of a much shorter duration.

Of course, during our times, there are many things not available or not well taken care of, esp. for special needs children like autism, ADHD, Asperger's, GDD etc. where they are usually labeled as problem kids rather than being treated effectively , and shown the right care and concern.
 
abbba,

Are you a nurse or doctor at KKH or other hospitals? Could you be more specific on how to find the root cause and implement the right method? From your previous postings, you keep mentioning on finding the root cause n implementing the correct method but not in details. I am speaking from my own experience n simply sharing it with samanthab, is that incorrect? I hope she will find a solution for her child. However, you go to the extent of mentioning kids with special needs etc, I understand every child is different and it is up to samanthab to observe and find a solution for her son. Sometimes doctors can't even help much, btw, a bed wetting alarm is not cheap and can only be used for a short while based on what samanthab has shared here.

No matter what, a parent still know their own child best. They need to read the signs, we can't depend on doctors all the time for solution unless we are so rich( consultation fees are not cheap). I find you are trying to put me down on my sharing with samanthab, there is no right or wrong in any methods. I am replying to samanthab as she is asking for more feedback from other parents.

Since you sound like you are very experienced in this area, why don't you provide a solution for samanthab who finds the bed wetting alarm which is expensive and ineffective for her son?

Btw, I do not need you to explain to me that my son knows that he need to wake up and pee , it is not due to me waking him up. Since you sound so high and mighty and putting me down on my sharing with samanthab, please provide a solution to samanthab. I am not asking for any explanation from you on my kids, find someone else to debate with.
 
pingping,

I believe you have misunderstood me, and think that I'm out to put you down or find fault with your experience.
At no time, do I intend to do that nor trying to be high and mighty like what you have just said.
It is always a possibility that expression in writing can be misconstrued and interpreted on the wrong way, or sound that way.
I hope you don't take it personally, and do read it objectively, and with the right mindset. :)

Your sharing is what this forum is meant for, so don't have the wrong idea that I'm out to say you are right or wrong, or put you down.
What I was simply pointing out is that every child is different, and having spoken with different parents who have been to KKH for diagnosis, and given professional and/or expert advice, it is always good to look at the problem from the various possibility, root cause and not be too narrow focus, or conclude too hastily.

Maybe that is where you are interpreting it as putting you down, and saying you are wrong. NO, at no time, was that my intention, and there is no right and wrong in this case as what you have pointed out, sharing of experience.

The root cause and effective method has been mentioned before, and I don't intend to repeat it again, so do read it in an objective way, and you can find the answers in the previous post. And definitely, not here to debate or claim to be the expert, or the high and mighty you made it out to be. :)

This forum is for sharing, so do continue to share, and writing sometimes can't explain things as clearly as face to face, so do give the benefit of the doubt.
 
Hi

I have read it very objectively, are you saying I am taking it personally? Yr posting was referred to my sharing of my own experience. Of course, it is important to find the root cause but it has to start from the basic first, isn't it, before ruling out it could be other problems. You were sharing from yr point of view taking reference from my posting, how would I not feel you are telling me that my sharing of own experience is not enough to help samanthab.

What do you mean by "What I was simply pointing out is that every child is different, and having spoken with different parents who have been to KKH for diagnosis, and given professional and/or expert advice, it is always good to look at the problem from the various possibility, root cause and not be too narrow focus, or conclude too hastily."?

I know there are parents who totally believe in doctors diagnosis. I can't help but feel that you are saying that my sharing is too narrow focus or conclude too hastily. That is up to samanthab to decide, what you shared does not serve any purpose in helping her but simply to tell her to seek professional opinions. I believe samanthab knows her son best and know what to do, and she has already seek professional opinions from doctor which resulted her to get a bed wetting alarm from the doctor. If the doctor's advice do not help much, what should she do now?

Please read your own posting before telling me to give others the benefit of the doubt when it just doesn't sound nice to me. If you were sharing with samanthab directly without referring to my posting, I would not feel this way. You were telling me this and that abt my method of training my kids, you may not be putting me down but you sound like you undermine it. Since you mention that writing can't explain clearly, so the more you shld be careful with what you are writing when you are referring to my posting. I would hv no problems at all if you did not reply to my posting or referring to my posting. I am merely sharing and it was to samanthab, not to you.

I would not reply a person's posting the way you do if others were sharing their experience, everyone is different and has different experience cos every person is unique in their own way. I find it very rude when you just come in to talk abt my sharing, you can share what you want but pls don't refer to others' postings and undermine other's experiences.
 
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Just read this article that was shared in my fb page. Thought it would bring some light to all who come across this thread. For my son, he was only more willing to learn not to rely on diapers at aged 4, when he started attending Kindy school. The teacher and I co-operated and supported one another to encourage my son. I remembered ppl telling us to take my son off diapers as soon as he could walk. It's a good thing we didn't..
 

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My girl told me that she know that she is going to pee, but since she is on a waterproof cloth diaper she don't need to wake up to do it.

I am so disappointed with her.

She is 6.5 yr old, I tot she should be ready. But she only get herself dry for max 5 days as I promise to give her rewards so she make an effort to stay dry, now rewarding seem not helping her anymore.

I am very stress now...
 
justenrayenmom,

maybe you can try removing the diaper, so she is aware she has no more protection and will be wet?

Or alternatively, you can have her wear a panties inside the diaper, so she will feel the wetness even though she is on diaper if she pee.
This way, she will be more conscious of not wetting herself or the uncomfortable feeling of wetness is there, although no pee is on the bed or floor.
 
Hi! Just to share my niece's experience. She was staying with my mum and had diapers put on when she slept. My sister took a few weeks of waking her up and bed wetting without diapers to finally move on with this problem. I like abbba's idea. Maybe you can get your child to slept with mattress protector and really discard diapers so that the child is not overly reliant on diapers. Some misses should be fine. Maybe no more drinks 1 hour before bedtime?
 
My girl finally went off diapers fully jus before her 8 years old bd!!!

Before tt, she had days of dry diapers, then wet diapers, then dry for few days then wet again. Tried wearing panty before putting diaper on. Used mattress protector also. Nothing works cos she's a deep sleeper & can sleep thru even with herself soaked! I was getting really worried & planned to bring her to doc if it continues past her 8th bd.

But i keep telling her tt I hope she gets the diaper off by her 8th bd & she really did it!
 
Dear Abbba, pinkamoon and mar_mum2,

My girl request not to wear her diaper anymore on Friday nite, she stay dry on the 2nd day, but Sunday morning she wet her bed again, she told me she is not aware about it and ask me to let her wear back her diaper...:(

I told her she will not be wearing panties now, since she really want to quit her it.

Today she is dry.

I asked my mom and bro how to train her, their advise to wake her up middle of the night. To me is really torturing her sleep, but I guess I have to do so.
 
Hi All... till today my son still wearing pampers :(

In my previous post.. went for KKH therapy and spent about few hundred but still cannot as he is deep sleeper just like mar_mum 2 daughter.

Last 2 weeks.. we drove to Malacca. He slept in the car and surprisingly he woke up and told me he needs to pee. So i asked him why he can do this in the car but not in the night. He told me... in the night he really dont know he pee but in car he can feel the urgent. :(

Hope to find a solution too!
 
I have a friend's son who is also a deep sleeper, the last time I know that she had to wake him up to peep is when he is Sec 2...

I really hope to get a solution too, she herself also feeling stress and dare not drink too much water at night.
 
I follow the old sch method. Let him wet his bed... He cannot Tahan then he should make some effort.. Think mine had no pro and been off diaper at night since 5.. They feel uncomfortable sleeping on a wet bed,. Anyway 8 years old, they will feel pai Sei if they wet their bed. Let them know that it not right.
 
Siling87, my boy will wake up to pee at 5 plus too, we have no issue with him, but my girl is a deep sleeper, she can sleep with her pants wet.

Today mark the 2nd day without wetting her bed. I wake her up at 6am to pee.
 
mar_mum2, press on! I am sure your child can do it! Give her more encouragement and appreciate her efforts! If there are misses, don't put pressure on her. We stain our bed sheets at times too. :p
 

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