IVF with KKH (Tan HH)

Hi gals,today went to see dr tan hh for 2nd opinion. He doesnt seem as friendly as is described..
Does he normally go for puregon and menopur as simulation jabs instead of gonal f? E menopur and puregon is that those powder like instead of liquid injection type?
 


Hi @connie_hopeful, mind sharing why he doesn't seem friendly? For me, I was given puregon which is the liquid based type of injection.
I went to seek his advise on my sis report today. He like rushing to finish my appt n just ask me to do. Else it will reduce my chances of bfp for icsi. But didnt reali reply my questions though i prepare a list for questions. The meetup with him with quite rush rush but i see pp go in before me had pretty long consultation lei...maybi i ask stupid questions to him and i went alone..:) i didnt reali have a chance to finish my questions with him. Will he reply to email ? Actually i still have some queries on my head..

Milogal, how many iu of puregon are u given?
 
Hi gals,today went to see dr tan hh for 2nd opinion. He doesnt seem as friendly as is described..
Does he normally go for puregon and menopur as simulation jabs instead of gonal f? E menopur and puregon is that those powder like instead of liquid injection type?

Hi connie_hopeful... I was given gonal f for my stim.. I seen dr tan thrice n he is always friendly.....
 
I went to seek his advise on my sis report today. He like rushing to finish my appt n just ask me to do. Else it will reduce my chances of bfp for icsi. But didnt reali reply my questions though i prepare a list for questions. The meetup with him with quite rush rush but i see pp go in before me had pretty long consultation lei...maybi i ask stupid questions to him and i went alone..:) i didnt reali have a chance to finish my questions with him. Will he reply to email ? Actually i still have some queries on my head..

Milogal, how many iu of puregon are u given?

I see. So far my experience with him has been a pleasant one and my questions are normally answered in detailed. But maybe i usually I ask 1 or 2 questions. I'm not sure what questions you had for him but you might wish to streamline it when you see him the next time. From what I understand in this forum, he doesn't reply to emails coz his schedule is way too pack! But he did confide in us that when patients fail their ivf, it's not only just us who are stressful. He as a doc is just as stressful coz he needs to think of other trial & error alternatives and try his best to help us. So I do feel him in that sense.

I'm given a very low dosage of 150 puregon due to my past record of ohss & polycystic ovary condition.
 
Hi all ! I'm new here. I'm 30 yrs , try for baby almost 2 yrs+, I did surgery for my ovarian cyst before, left type open, right type blocked. I got problem wt POCS too, both side, my cycles always more than 35 days :(. And now missing. Yesterday went to kkh amk, checkup by dr han how chuan, he said the same things, and gave me medicine to make new cycles ( for 5 days) , after that will make apt for Hsg test at kkh bukit Timat, then clomid , then try for baby . Day 21st will do blood test again. . But I think I'm no hope for natural way anymore, so just waiting for time to do my ivf. Did anyone done for hsg test at kkh ? Any experience for me ? Painful or not coz I heard lost of people say if ur both type are ok then feeling just like when u r that day , but if like me , type bloked mean will rally pain like delivery baby ? I'm too much scare of pain ...... And how much the cost ? Thx !!!!! Best luck to all of us .
 
Hello..haiz.. I've come in and out of this forum for the past 5 yrs. I'm married for 7 yrs. I'm 32 this yr. had 2 MC & 1 chem pregnancy. Tried 2x SOIUI but 1 of which led to chem pregnancy (dec 2013). So hub & I giving ourselves 1 last chance & decided to try IVF now since the clock is ticking v fast.
I'm given med to bring on my menses(coz I don't menstruate on my own regularly). So I guess I will start in oct. Can I ask if there's any advices how should I prepare my body for IVF? During the briefing session, I met a few other couples and they recommended taking Conceive well. What about for hub? Diet wise? Can I exercise?

Thanks..looking forward to hear from all of you and. Let's support ea other...
 
Hi missyserene. I went so many forum bat ivf and people told me that for ivf 1st u hv to be stress free. That's the most important thing. 2rd is eat avocado, durian, these fruits very gud to make our ovary ready for the eggs. Then drink soya milk, eat egg boil. Do some exercise, u need to run or walk, that my private dr told me, walk more, keep tummy flat, take folic acid, vita e, if can u maybe go for Chinese herb for few months ...improve ur hocmon level. ...that's all I knew :) and I'm trying to follow cos I'm also plan for ivf on dec in India. Got very good hospital and the cost not too much like in sing. Maybe with me to be stress free depend on how much money for the procedure too, if I can not in the 1st time , then I can try the 2rd the 3 .....so I will not worry too much , just enjoy. ....
 
Hello..haiz.. I've come in and out of this forum for the past 5 yrs. I'm married for 7 yrs. I'm 32 this yr. had 2 MC & 1 chem pregnancy. Tried 2x SOIUI but 1 of which led to chem pregnancy (dec 2013). So hub & I giving ourselves 1 last chance & decided to try IVF now since the clock is ticking v fast.
I'm given med to bring on my menses(coz I don't menstruate on my own regularly). So I guess I will start in oct. Can I ask if there's any advices how should I prepare my body for IVF? During the briefing session, I met a few other couples and they recommended taking Conceive well. What about for hub? Diet wise? Can I exercise?

Thanks..looking forward to hear from all of you and. Let's support ea other...
Be disciplined, stay focused and keep your spirit high! :)

I started my first fresh IVF in January this year. I was on long protocol. I did acupuncture with Dr Zou and drank her prescribed TCM for the whole of 2013. I exercise at least once a week. I eat a balanced diet everyday. I drink less cold drinks. I eat folic acid everyday.

During IVF period, I drank red dates and wolf berries tea, red bean soup and ate hard boiled eggs and fish everyday.

I ate durians, hard boiled eggs, fish, drank Similac Mum maternal milk and chicken essence with cordyceps, red dates and wolf berries tea everyday during 2ww.

I bfp on my first fresh cycle.

Sometimes we might be tempted to deviate from eating a balanced diet because most of the nice tasting foods aren't that healthy. Sometimes repeatedly eating the same foods everyday can be boring. Sometimes we just want to be lazy for a day. But before we give in to all the temptations, we must ask ourselves if we will regret if we don't succeed. Of course all the above that I had mentioned don't guarantee a success but it does help to increase the chances of success. So it all boils down to us how we want to manage the whole situation.

I'm the kind who cannot live with regrets. So if I don't succeed, at least I know I've done my best, find out what might have caused the unsuccess, tackle it, move on and fight again.

Ultimately this is my body. If I don't help myself, nobody will. I also pray to God for His mercy and blessings but I need to do my part in order to receive that.
 
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Hi @ faithfullyyours . Yes u r right , I'm doing the same thing what u hv done before ur ivf. Yes before I love KFC, French fries, oldchangkee , ....which is deep fries in oil,,,,, now I stop all these food, no cool drink, I eat more boiled veggies, sea food, fruits, drink all the fruit juice and green tea..... We started some exercise , play badminton and walking every night . ...hope it's works on me at least wt my pocs ... Thx for ur sharing !!!
 
Hi @ faithfullyyours . Yes u r right , I'm doing the same thing what u hv done before ur ivf. Yes before I love KFC, French fries, oldchangkee , ....which is deep fries in oil,,,,, now I stop all these food, no cool drink, I eat more boiled veggies, sea food, fruits, drink all the fruit juice and green tea..... We started some exercise , play badminton and walking every night . ...hope it's works on me at least wt my pocs ... Thx for ur sharing !!!
Actually for our case, it's male factor. Not my side's issue. My health report is normal except my AMH is reasonably okay only. Though I seem not to have any issue, it doesn't mean I should just take it lightly. Ultimately I am the one who has to go through all the injections and stimulations and getting pregnant. I need to do my part to condition my body too.

Good that you are making changes and adopting a healthier lifestyle. May I ask why do you want to go to India to do IVF? If you are Singaprean, you are entitled up to 3 fresh and 3 FET grants from government.
 
Dear sisters, am glad to find this thread. Was at the IVF thread (saw a few familiar nicks here too) din know there's another thread dedicated to Dr THH

Am under him too, will be starting our first fresh in Nov if can make it in time, else will be Jan

Re. the briefing, it's compulsory to sit thru it? Understand its with other couples. Were u asked personal questions? Is it awkward with other couples ard?
 
Dear sisters, am glad to find this thread. Was at the IVF thread (saw a few familiar nicks here too) din know there's another thread dedicated to Dr THH

Am under him too, will be starting our first fresh in Nov if can make it in time, else will be Jan

Re. the briefing, it's compulsory to sit thru it? Understand its with other couples. Were u asked personal questions? Is it awkward with other couples ard?
Hi @dramaqueenie.. yes.. briefing is compulsory.. and yes, it'll be in a group with other couples.. you can just ask.. but if u find it awkward, you can ask the nurse or THH in private too.. i asked all my questions with THH before i went for my briefing.. so the briefing is a recap for me..
 
hi ladies, like to join you all in this thread. A bit of intro of myself..... I failed 2 IUIs with my private gynae in Jan & Feb this year & my fren recommended me Prof Wong at NUH. However Prof Wong recommended me to try naturally or try another IUI which I am reluctant to waste any more time so I went to Dr THH @kkh last friday. Had a discussion with him to proceed with IVF for my case & I am so glad that he agreed to do IVF without going thru other treatment!! He also told me the lab will be closed for cleaning 2 wks in Dec. Does anyone know which 2 wks are the lab close?

Hi, hv checked Re this subject and was told e lab will be closed from Dec 17 - Jan 4. Last day of LMP for short protocol is Nov 28 n long protocol by mid Oct. Hope this helps
 
hihi @dramaqueenie , we might cycle buddies for Nov! For the briefing, think of it as going for a short seminar. You won't be arrowed to answer any personal questions. But if you have any questions for them, you can always ask the nurses or the doc who's doing the briefing privately after the session like what @rachelt had mentioned.
Anyway, I personally feel that it's not exactly that awkward since everyone is there for the same reason.;)
 
Hi, hv checked Re this subject and was told e lab will be closed from Dec 17 - Jan 4. Last day of LMP for short protocol is Nov 28 n long protocol by mid Oct. Hope this helps

Hi dramaqueenie, tks for finding out more!! LMP stands for last menses period is it? Sorry I am still loss at some of the abbreviations & what protocol means what as a newbie.... I should be joining you and milogal88 for Nov cycle!! Now I am in a dilemma if I should reveal the truth that I am going IVF to my bosses as I have a new lady boss whom I will be reporting to.
 
Hi, hv checked Re this subject and was told e lab will be closed from Dec 17 - Jan 4. Last day of LMP for short protocol is Nov 28 n long protocol by mid Oct. Hope this helps

Hi dramaqueenie, tks for finding out more!! LMP stands for last menses period is it? Sorry I am still loss at some of the abbreviations & what protocol means what as a newbie.... I should be joining you and milogal88 for Nov cycle!! Now I am in a dilemma if I should reveal the truth that I am going IVF to my bosses as I have a new lady boss whom I will be reporting to.
 
Hi ladies, wanna check with you if for fresh cycle, short protocol, you need to report for scan and start jabs on D2? I called KK but they didn't call me back on the instructions. No one is answering the calls now. Wondering if I should go down tomorrow?
 
Hi ladies, wanna check with you if for fresh cycle, short protocol, you need to report for scan and start jabs on D2? I called KK but they didn't call me back on the instructions. No one is answering the calls now. Wondering if I should go down tomorrow?
@knottie.. Some people start cycle on cd3 for fresh.. Don't worry.. They'll call de.. If you go down tmr on your own.. Just scared they cannot find your folder and not prepared for you.. Any other ladies have similar case?
 
Hi ladies, wanna check with you if for fresh cycle, short protocol, you need to report for scan and start jabs on D2? I called KK but they didn't call me back on the instructions. No one is answering the calls now. Wondering if I should go down tomorrow?
Just go down kkh. Tell nurse is your day 2 and u have been calling whole day and no one answer. Go earlier.
 
Thanks ladies, the nurse finally called at 6pm to say that they are still waiting for doc's clearance so will call me again tomorrow morning. She said that it's fine to start on D3. All along I Thot must start on D2. Think there must have been some mixed up. They prob couldn't find the memo that states that I will be on short protocol
 
Hi @faithfullyyours ! I'm foreigner here, not Singaporean. I've checked wt few hospital and they told me 12-15.000 $ for the fresh one. So I heard so many European went to India for ivf cos maximum 5or 6000$ . So that's mean one time in sing I can do 2,3 times in India , I will get more chance coz less stress and dr also very good too.
 
Hi @faithfullyyours ! I'm foreigner here, not Singaporean. I've checked wt few hospital and they told me 12-15.000 $ for the fresh one. So I heard so many European went to India for ivf cos maximum 5or 6000$ . So that's mean one time in sing I can do 2,3 times in India , I will get more chance coz less stress and dr also very good too.
 
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Thanks ladies, the nurse finally called at 6pm to say that they are still waiting for doc's clearance so will call me again tomorrow morning. She said that it's fine to start on D3. All along I Thot must start on D2. Think there must have been some mixed up. They prob couldn't find the memo that states that I will be on short protocol

@knottie I had my first scan & stimulation on cd3 coz my af came on a sat evening. But I did call kkivf on sat morning to check with them first as I had spotting on Friday & I wasn't sure when it will come full flow & whether I should be going for scan first since my gut feel is it will be red that very day. But they told me it's fine to go on Monday instead at cd3 if it does come full flow later on.
 
Thank you. ;) I have made arrangement to see physician Poh Yu Min at Raffles Medical.
Anyone seen her before? Any comment to share? ;)
 
I see Dr zou from Amk. Think she sees a lot of ladies who had issues so she does acu specifically for fertility. Previously I did acu elsewhere but it's not related to fertility n there's a difference.
E other TCM doc only use needles, Dr zou used needles w electro wires attached to the needles, there's heat effect too. She also does acu on ur front then back.
Overall I think her charges are very reasonable. $40 each session. The other TCM doc charged me $50 per session
 
They say start 2-3 mths before ivf will be good. But hv read that even acu 24hrs before n after et helps to increase pregnancy rates too
 
I did my ivf with dr tan and suceed on 1 fresh cycle.. A pretty nice and polite doc.. Those who are considering him, you are in safe hands..

For me, I'm also seeing Tcm tan siew boey.. I avoided eating all those good for ET, 2WW food like red bean, chicken essence, red dates etc since Tcm strongly stopped me.. Accordingly to her, her med supposed to build up the correct constitution for conceiving.. If I still eat those "good food", I will mess up my body instead..
 
Hi ladies, any ladies in TWW now? Feeling bored... I feel nothing at all. Any symptoms I shd look out for? One stupid qns, after ET, I immediately stand up n went to pee. Can or not? Do we really need bed rest?
 
@meganl.. Dont look for symptoms.. Almost all of us went pee right after the 5-10 mins rest time so dont worry.. An your embryos are not in the same "pipe" as your pee and poo "pipes" ;) Enjoy your TWW ya and all the best..
 
ladies.. I'm back in the race.. AF reported and starting my medicated FET.. anyone else in the race this month?
 
I found online a while back that our wombs are like a "vacuum". So the embie will not just fall out but be held in the space. So no need to worry about peeing and no need complete bed rest unless dr order.

I'll be starting my medicated FET late oct. Doing endo scratch next week first.
 
Hi ladies, i thought of doing my next fresh wif kkh. Emailed them & according to them, i need to consult the reproductive medicine specialist to be assessed if im qualified b4 putting me into kkivf centre. Is this the norm protocol? Esp for first timers at kkh?

Went thro 2 fresh alrdy wif nuh so of coz im qualified for ivf. Can I juz book appmt directly into kkivf?
 
Hi ladies, i thought of doing my next fresh wif kkh. Emailed them & according to them, i need to consult the reproductive medicine specialist to be assessed if im qualified b4 putting me into kkivf centre. Is this the norm protocol? Esp for first timers at kkh?

Went thro 2 fresh alrdy wif nuh so of coz im qualified for ivf. Can I juz book appmt directly into kkivf?
Hi,i think u need to see e specialist at reproductive medicine first. They will do a initial accessment n order some test that they may think is neccessary. Eg expired blood test or further scan evaluation. Think kkivf need a memo from doc to give greenlight to start ivf before u can start it.
 
Hi,i think u need to see e specialist at reproductive medicine first. They will do a initial accessment n order some test that they may think is neccessary. Eg expired blood test or further scan evaluation. Think kkivf need a memo from doc to give greenlight to start ivf before u can start it.
Hi connie_hopeful, thanks for the reply..wil book appmt soon. Im hoping to do in jan cycle..
 
I have previously done several tests (blood test, hormone test, HSG and sperm count test for hubby) at Raffles Hospital and the doctor recommend me to KKH to do IVF. I have booked an appointment with Dr Tan HH on 24/10. May i know if i were to go for IVF at KKH, when is the earliest possible date?
 
I have previously done several tests (blood test, hormone test, HSG and sperm count test for hubby) at Raffles Hospital and the doctor recommend me to KKH to do IVF. I have booked an appointment with Dr Tan HH on 24/10. May i know if i were to go for IVF at KKH, when is the earliest possible date?
@asumi, it's difficult to predict cause kkivf will be closed for a few weeks in dec and that may affect the no. Of spots for fresh cycle. Also dr may b on leave or away and recommend u postpone. Remember to bring all ur reports with you.
 
Hi all, Dr THH told me to start ivf in nov. Now waiting for call to go for the briefing. Any idea how long does e briefing takes?
 
Briefing takes about 2 to 3 hrs. There's morning and afternoon slot, fixed timing. Usually will hv about 4 or 5 couples together.
 
Hi Ladies
Wish all of u good luck on your ivf :)

wave wave to jumbogirl, bubbleblue and hlixian
not sure if u girls rmb me in e 2ww thread. have been here for so so long still waiting for baby in my arms. :(


i have a few questions to seek help. :( i have been in this forum for so many yrs, still waiting for my baby, too bad it didn't happen.

considering to seek gynae advice on doing iui. not sure if i am able to do iui or not due to some infertility with both hub n me... or maybe gynae will suggest ivf.

may i know some reviews on dr tan HH from KKH? if i go in as subsidy patient, cannot choose doc, how is his rate?

though i have heard a lot of awful reviews on how bad n rude the nurses were, how insensitive the nurses were and how rough they were... but i due to my financial constraint, i may not be able to do it as pte cos no subsidy for ivf. but i have heard if i choose gynae at kkh, i m also paying pte rate same as the pte hosp??? :eek: then how? if i wanna do ivf or iui but e gynae is always different??? ivf gynae oso diff?? i wanna cry.

If i wanna see Dr Tan HH all my visit, i cant be a subsidized patient right? If i go in as pte patient, i can see him + ivf or iui oso he do for me right? Then can still get subsidy form government for ivf??? i m at great loss!

Thanks in advance
 
Hi Ladies
Wish all of u good luck on your ivf :)

wave wave to jumbogirl, bubbleblue and hlixian
not sure if u girls rmb me in e 2ww thread. have been here for so so long still waiting for baby in my arms. :(


i have a few questions to seek help. :( i have been in this forum for so many yrs, still waiting for my baby, too bad it didn't happen.

considering to seek gynae advice on doing iui. not sure if i am able to do iui or not due to some infertility with both hub n me... or maybe gynae will suggest ivf.

may i know some reviews on dr tan HH from KKH? if i go in as subsidy patient, cannot choose doc, how is his rate?

though i have heard a lot of awful reviews on how bad n rude the nurses were, how insensitive the nurses were and how rough they were... but i due to my financial constraint, i may not be able to do it as pte cos no subsidy for ivf. but i have heard if i choose gynae at kkh, i m also paying pte rate same as the pte hosp??? :eek: then how? if i wanna do ivf or iui but e gynae is always different??? ivf gynae oso diff?? i wanna cry.

If i wanna see Dr Tan HH all my visit, i cant be a subsidized patient right? If i go in as pte patient, i can see him + ivf or iui oso he do for me right? Then can still get subsidy form government for ivf??? i m at great loss!

Thanks in advance
Although I'm not doing IVF treatment now, but i did a little bit of research in that area.

There's 2 segment of payment that we're looking at now. IVF procedure and Doctor's consultation fee.

1) For the whole IVF cycle, the bill may add up from $10-14 k. 75% of $6.3k will be subsidized for the first cycle if both you and your hubby are Singaporeans and doing the procedure in Government Hospitals. More details here. Next, we can pay up to $6k via Medisave for the first cycle. Then the rest pay cash, probably around $1-2k or so? (Someone please correct me if i'm wrong here, thanks.)

2) For the doctor's consultation fee, if look specially for Dr Tan HH, first consultation fee will be $120+, subsequent visits will be $90+. If you're under the subsidized rates, you'll be taken care under a panel of doctors, meaning each time may be different doctor attending to you, depending on their availability. In this case, you don't need to pay so much, but i heard it's something like halved the rates of their private practice rates. Details here.

Most probably I'm looking to do IVF at KKH with Dr Tan HH. My first appointment with him will be on 24th Oct.
 
Emily, I'm also in the ttc forum for a long time.
For e fees portion, Asumi has explained perfectly. I specifically choose Dr Tan so I'm considered pte.
My experience so far has been pretty good. Nurses there are quite friendly and helpful. Im super scared of needles. But I must say the nurses taking blood tests are very experienced. Very little pain. I recently did a lap and hospitalised for 1 night. Nurses were quite attentive and gentle.
I suggest you do a fertility test before deciding on iui or ivf.
If both tubes are blocked, no use doing iui. Your doc should be able to advise you.
And yes, if u go as pte, everything will be done by Dr Tan.
 

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Emily, I'm also in the ttc forum for a long time.
For e fees portion, Asumi has explained perfectly. I specifically choose Dr Tan so I'm considered pte.
My experience so far has been pretty good. Nurses there are quite friendly and helpful. Im super scared of needles. But I must say the nurses taking blood tests are very experienced. Very little pain. I recently did a lap and hospitalised for 1 night. Nurses were quite attentive and gentle.
I suggest you do a fertility test before deciding on iui or ivf.
If both tubes are blocked, no use doing iui. Your doc should be able to advise you.
And yes, if u go as pte, everything will be done by Dr Tan.
Hi Hlixian, you got do ivf as well?
 

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