no, i mean outside clinic type. This is my 2nd kid. Already 4 mths. When i first go there, i dunno who to see. Then nurse put me to dr khoo. There was a time where dr khoo thread in free items.. Then when i try to search, the thread no longer there.. But i found it here.. My first son was born in east shore hospital. Due to some reason, i have to b cesar.. So, i wprry not only the cost but also how the doc works in there..